What if wejo or rojo had met a minority
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Jim Ryun, if sensibly coached and crooked arrogant, dishonest Mexican officials hadn’t insisted on Mexico City as the site for the ‘68 games.
Remember what Lydiard said about Ryun.
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Just Another Hobby Jogger wrote:
Elzio Dennick wrote:
What if we;d had the Olympics in 1940 and 44?
Cornelius Warmerdam could have been a two-time gold medalist.
I;ve met him, met ihim in Fresno long ago, nice guy.
Thinking he broke the WR like 10 times, was way ahead of everyone in his day.
Obviously wins in 40 and 44
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Joe Binks.
"In 1902, Joe Binks set a world record for the mile when he ran 4:16. Joe also ran a personal record three-mile of 14:10.
Whatever the race, Binks trained just one evening a week for a half hour. His workouts for the 3M consisted of an easy two-mile run, followed by a few sprints."And that was on a cinder track with primitive footwear.
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What if Alan Webb stayed at Michigan, or in college--he took whatever meds he needed/went to therapy
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What if Liz Mueller had gone to Villanova (I think it was Villanova) instead of Southern Connecticut in order to stay with her high school coach
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Louis Zamperini?
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Jesse Owens, wins 4 golds in 1936, loses his amateur status immediately afterward (yes, the predecessor to USATF was just as f**ked up 90 years ago).
John Woodruff - Olympic gold at age 19 in 1936, then WW2
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That pitcher for the Yankees, Brian Taylor. Injuries sort of derailed him in the minor leagues.
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extramustard wrote:
That pitcher for the Yankees, Brian Taylor. Injuries sort of derailed him in the minor leagues.
My bad. I didn't read "this sport" as in just running.
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Seth James Demoor
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Mary Cain…..😂😂😂
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extramustard wrote:
That pitcher for the Yankees, Brian Taylor. Injuries sort of derailed him in the minor leagues.
It was just one injury for Brien Taylor and it was far from “sort of”. His shoulder was injured during a brawl and after the surgery to repair it, he had lost 10 mph off his fastball.
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This is the answer. I would've loved to see what he was capable of.
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Josh McDougal - what if he'd returned to racing after overcoming his injuries.
Amber Trotter - what if she'd run in college.
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what about webb wrote:
What if Alan Webb stayed at Michigan, or in college--he took whatever meds he needed/went to therapy
Yep, the talent was always there with Webb. Not sure if Michigan was the answer, but he always seemed to be his own worst enemy. Either too impulsive and/or impatient. Way too many changes. I do wonder what he could have done under a stable program and coach for the bulk of his career.
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It is kind of lost to history how much WWII affected Woodruff - he was the best prospect for breaking the four minute mile, not any of the others that were always mentioned up to Bannister. The 800m in 1936 it looks like he's jogging.
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What about Mary Cain?
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mictlantecuhtli wrote:
Donovan Brazier
Not sure if I would call him a what if. He’s a gold medalist so he did successfully reach the top
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Roberto Bettega wrote:
Henry Rono would be distance running GOAT if not for a series of misfortunes.
The biggest misfortune he had was that his country boycotted the 1976 Olympics when hundreds of students were killed in the Soweto student uprising. Then in 1980 again USA convinced Kenya and many other countries to boycott. So he missed the two Olympics that happened when he was in his prime. There is nothing that can destroy a runners motivation than missing big events.
The second misfortune is that he ran in the amateur era when their was no prize money. So he had to waste his talents running in the NCAA which is a huge hindrance to talent development because coaches tend to overwork their ace runners.
Thirdly there was a dearth of competition. There was no World Championships. The European circuit was not active as it is today.He says these missed opportunities are what led to his clinical depression and to him becoming an alcoholic and at one point homeless.
Still he broke four world records: 10,000 m (27:22.5), the 5000 m (13:08.4), the 3000 m steeplechase (8:05.4), and the 3000 m (7:32.1); an achievement unsurpassed.
Yet he is rarely ever mentioned in discussions about GOATs
What if he was running today with Super-shoes, wavelights and what if his career was not ruined by missed events ?
3000m: Sub 7:20
5000m: Sub 12:30
10,000m : Sub 26:10
Half Marathon: 57:20
Marathon: 1:58
I can think of one.....or two. What if mary decker hadnt fallen in the 1984 olympics? she may have won gold.But then if there wasnt a soviet boycott,tatiana kazankina would have wiped the floor with everyone,including decker. Marita koch would have won the 400,and there might have been a battle royal between kratochvilova,and olizarenko in the 800.
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