FILIP INGEBRIGTSEN: "Jakob is loaded with training. I’m dreading what he’ll come up with this summer.”

Nice post. -Yes, you are right; I do have lengthy essays that don’t really go anywhere. But that is also my point: I just won’t take Jakob’s achievements in advance (I therefore stress uncertainty when there’s a lot to be found). So my posts don’t go anywhere -I don’t conclude- when I stress that Jakob hasn’t yet run a very good 5000m, and only extremely extremely bad 10k’s, that doesn’t mean that he can’t fix that, not at all, it only means that I have no clue if Jakob is a 12.42 athlete or a sub 12.30 man. And likewise in the 10000m -there’s a lot of indications against him there; but all those indications are so fluffy that he also there might surprise. And in the HM -what do I know -Jakob didn’t say he had a bad day in Copenhagen -but he stressed that the two first km’s felt OK. So did that mean that he was started to be pumped at 3 k? -If so the 7.17 man can’t have been in shape, and we can forget this result…

I’m not critical of Jakob -he gives me immense joy as an athlete, and I like him. -I think he could have taken the mile outdoor record both in 2023 and 2024, and this year I think the 1500m will go down, and the mile, and also 2000/3000m and 2 mile if he gives any of those a try. The 5000m is harder to guess -I would go for a 50/50…. And for the record: I think he can front run a WC 1500m win, although an improving Hocker might be a handful.

Pr date Jakob doesn’t seem to have it in the 10k/HM. But that can change. Or not. To me that will be a bonus if he crushes it (in one or both events).

About Armstronglivs -I will say something in another post.

I'm not sure all his nonsense are trolling attempts. There is also the serious possibility Armstronglivs really is that stupid.

Why are you telling lies?

"Fifty-fifty if he crosses the finish line" = "Jakob is loaded with training. I’m dreading what he’ll come up with this summer." ARMSTRONGLIES

Why are you so aggressive and use words like lies unnecessarily. Don’t you know that people have different impressions and opinions? Armstronglivs may have read f.x this interview with Filip one day prior to the Copenhagen race, link:

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Filip Ingebrigtsen før København Halvmaraton: – De andre blir sykt nervøse når Jakob er på start her

Herman Folvik

Filip Ingebrigtsen (31) tror konkurrentene får en støkk i seg når Jakob (23) plutselig stiller i København Halvmaraton søndag.

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Here Filip is saying in Norwegian:
– Jeg tror de andre blir sykt nervøse når Jakob er på start her. Jeg tipper de tenker at deres mulighet er å springe veldig hardt fra start. Det kan også bli deres akilleshæl, sier Filip til VG.

My translation: -I think the others become extremely nervous when Jakob is on the start line here. I guess they are thinking that their options are to run really hard from the start. That can also become their Achilles heals, Filip says to VG.

Yes, Filip says a lot in different directions. And Jakob too -the latter wouldn’t rule out that he could win and set a WR in that HM race in one of his pre interviews (although he also stressed the possibility of blowing up). So all in all I think Armstronglivs has a valid point here, as he often has when one consider everything he says in his posts.

I'm embarrassed for you.

Here is what he said:

"Han er nemlig ganske lasset med trening. Hvis han føler seg så bra nå, så gruer jeg meg til hva han vil finne på i sommer."

Here is a basic Google translation of those words:

"He's quite busy with training. If he feels so good now, I'm afraid of what he'll do this summer."

"Loaded" in the OP's translation clearly reflects that he is deep in training ("lasset" = "busy"), as opposed to tapered or de-loaded in training terms.

Before getting triggered by the word "loaded" and sending your a distinctly un-clever and cowardly doping accusation, maybe be aware of the actual words that were spoken?

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We know you’re Armstronglivs posting under another name. Only you could be so obsessed. How much did pay to bribe the sanitarium staff to let someone visit and give you the tramp stamp?

I think I use the word lies because I learned that it was the english word for such cases when people stray from telling the truth. And in doing so he is attempting to paint someone in a bad light, which makes your response curious.

Even in the link you posted Filip says that in worst case he wont make it to the finish line. How is this the same?

What exactly is Armstronglivs valid point here?

he'll probably have a generational year and set multiple world records and be dubbed the greatest distance runner of all time and then get like 2nd or 3rd at worlds in the 1500

Yes he did. It was some time earlier when he talked about Jakob's distance capabilities based on his training. You just don't remember. We saw how that worked out.

Of course he's loaded.

"He can't use the 12:48 argument anymore as Jakob has run almost 18 seconds faster than that."

When? Where?

It appears I got the wrong relative. It was his father not Filip. Here is the thread it was in:

"Father of Jakob Ingebrigtsen believe Jakob could run a half-marathon under 60min under an interview lately"

You got everything wrong as usual. That is nothing like saying he is "loaded".

You don't know anything about training, so it's natural you don't understand what that means.

Armstronglivs's valid point is that Filip (and Gjert, and Jakob, and a lot of others) prior to the current Filip interview (about the coming 2025 season) have claimed things about Jakob that have back fired. But contrary to Armstronglivs I think Filip this time may very well be right, but that doesn’t make Arms a liar -he is entitled to have opinions that not everyone shares.

If you had read the post you’d have seen it were predictions for the rest of the year.

I have to add this: Yes, both Filip and Jakob talk about worse case scenarios. But neither of them are even close to how bad it turned out: Not being able to finish f.x after 19 k’s in WR pace is something totally different from being totally pumped after less than half the distance in slower than WR pace.

you have to really twist this to pretend armstrong was correct in his comment. im sure the race went worse than any of the family ever expected, but it remains that filip said it is 50/50 that jakob would even finish.

As far as Gjert's comments, well ya, i'd still put money on Jakob being sub 60 HM shape on a normal date. I think he was just at the point of season where he was cooked. Even his 1500 win a day or two prior was kind of mediocre for his standards.

There is analysis of his training out there somewhere that shows he was completely DE-LOADED by the time this race came about. To a ridiculously low level for him.

Even Grant Fisher bombed out on his final 3000 of the year with a 7:49. Sometimes when your season is done, it's just done. That's where Jakob was in his training cycle.

So Gjert's comments are still reasonable, and Filip's comments before the race were actually quite prescient.