I appreciate all the responses here. I would love for a coach who has experience coaching predominantly adult collegiate/pro women to weigh in on this thread.
You didn't understand the question. He didn't ask what an equivalent 800 is to a 4:00 mile. If we look at all of the men who run 3:59.9, their 800 will range from.1:43 for a 400-800 guy to 1:54 for a 5k/10k guy. The question was how fast it had to be in order to have a shot a breaking 4.
That's fair. I'm just talking ABILITY. To run 3:59.9 you have to have the ability to run 1:49-1:50. That is my only claim. Which is supported by Daniels, Gilbert, Grant, Schwartz, etc.
You don’t understand the charts. They are about equivalent performances not requirements
Let’s keep it super simple. Faith is a 1.57.6/3.49 runner. If she ran 1:54(3.6s faster), don’t you think she would run 3:41.5? Isnt that basically a 4 min mile? Now maybe she would be slightly faster in the 800m if she ran it more but we are talking like a sec. And she isn’t some big outlier. The 1500m is filled with 1:59/3:57 runners
Most men are speed based a ton more than women which is why you get all the 49/1:50/3:59 guys. A woman is far more likely to be that 52.5/1:53/3:59 runner that we seen in men that are 10k dudes
but that is the type of runner who doesn’t exist. It is easy to write about the the 45/1:40/3:39 guys. plenty of guys have the first. A couple are close in the second. Nobody is close on the 3rd. There is no evidence that any woman whose sweet spot is the 1500m has the 53 speed we are talking about.