Why hasn't the NFHS followed world athletics and the NCAA to protect the integrity (records) of the sport ? HS kids could wear these shoes and it would be fine as far as I know.
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Were the shoes not checked beforehand at "spike check"? Would this not be the same procedure as implement weigh in? If a shot, disc, jav are deemed illegal at implement check they are impounded for the duration of the meet. Should shoes not be the same?
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weights and measures wrote:
Were the shoes not checked beforehand at "spike check"? Would this not be the same procedure as implement weigh in? If a shot, disc, jav are deemed illegal at implement check they are impounded for the duration of the meet. Should shoes not be the same?
It's "spike check" not "shoe check." They could have checked the spike length but not the rest of the shoe.
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Menoutofwomenssports wrote:
big issue wrote:
Can confirm this is the same person and that this person is ineligible to compete for Athletics Kenya due to being ineligible to compete on the female category. Yet, it seems they are eligible to compete in the NCAA? Perhaps the Hampton coach is trying not to attract too much attention.
I thought the US president had signed an executive order (adopted by the NCAA) that biological men *cannot* compete in female sports?
Peninah Mutisya might be DSD which is a much trickier category to regulate than someone like Lia Thomas who was a male for 20 years and then all of a sudden wanted to compete in the female category.
If Peninah Mutisya is DSD then they were most likely considered to be female at birth. And the new regulation only applies to someone who was considered to be male at birth. So DSD athletes aren't technically banned by Trumps' executive order.
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Peach Pit wrote:
The issue is Republicans spent 4 years asking "what is a woman?" because it turns out they actually don't know, which is why Trump signed an EO on the first day defining sex as something at conception, even though no one has a sex at conception, or at best, everyone is a woman.
I understand that Republicans think "Women have a vagina and men have a penis, it's biology 101", and they never realized there's actually biology 201, 301, 401, and even grad school classes in biology where things actually get more complicated than you learned in middle school. If you're a fan of running, you may have heard of Caster Semenya, who had internal testes that produced male levels of testosterone, XY chromosomes, yet she was born with a vagina.
So yes, he did sign an EO saying biological men can't compete in women's sports, but Republicans have no clue how to differentiate biological men from biological women. That's not to say that Democrats do a much better job, but at least they recognize the answer is more complicated than "Man have penis woman have vagina"
Wow! You must be an biologist.
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Was this a woman's or men's race? Time of the winner was 15:45.
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What shoes were they wearing?
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Peninah Mutisya wrote:
Was this a woman's or men's race? Time of the winner was 15:45.
It was a women's race. But the winner of that women's race is most likely a DSD runner like Caster Semenya.
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Get real man wrote:
Menoutofwomenssports wrote:
I thought the US president had signed an executive order (adopted by the NCAA) that biological men *cannot* compete in female sports?
Peninah Mutisya might be DSD which is a much trickier category to regulate than someone like Lia Thomas who was a male for 20 years and then all of a sudden wanted to compete in the female category.
If Peninah Mutisya is DSD then they were most likely considered to be female at birth. And the new regulation only applies to someone who was considered to be male at birth. So DSD athletes aren't technically banned by Trumps' executive order.
It is not about what you were considered to be at birth, it is about what you WERE at birth. And that bloke was definitely male at birth, just like Caster Semenya.
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Charlesvdw wrote:
Get real man wrote:
Peninah Mutisya might be DSD which is a much trickier category to regulate than someone like Lia Thomas who was a male for 20 years and then all of a sudden wanted to compete in the female category.
If Peninah Mutisya is DSD then they were most likely considered to be female at birth. And the new regulation only applies to someone who was considered to be male at birth. So DSD athletes aren't technically banned by Trumps' executive order.
It is not about what you were considered to be at birth, it is about what you WERE at birth. And that bloke was definitely male at birth, just like Caster Semenya.
But if the doctor that delivered you says that you are female when you are born and puts "female" on your birth certificate then legally you're female. Trump's executive order doesn't ban those kinds of people. Fortunately, the number of DSD athletes that were born in the US is close to zero. It's mainly a third world country problem. But if they leave their third world country and go to the US for college, then they get around that executive order because they are legally female.
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Kvothe wrote:
speculation:
Hampton has someone else who could score in the 800. But this runner could win the 5000 and likely 3000. Why not a mile 3000 double then? Maybe the extra heat for the mile making it 3 races instead of 2, maybe because of which teams can score in those events.
The coach chose a path to 30 points instead of 28.
Looks like you're right. That runner won both the 3k and 5k, and Hampton women won the conference over Elon by 2.5 points.
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I saw that Northeastern women lost the conference as well. Cheaters never prosper
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It was a world athletics recognized meet, so the officials were required to check ALL races shoes - and tagged their vaporflys. Shame on the officials.
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jeydy wrote:
know the rules wrote:
Two runners from Northeastern University in the 5000m were disqualified at the CAA Championship because of illegal shoes. Shame on the coach for not knowing the rules by now.
Based on the splits, one ran 16:27 which would have been 5th place and a big new personal best.
No, shame on the athletes. These are adults, they could read a rule book just as easily as the coach.
The rules just changed in the ncaa most runners don’t know, it’s really a coaches issue not an athletes
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Justice is served wrote:
I saw that Northeastern women lost the conference as well. Cheaters never prosper
Bro is hating on 20 year old girls that weren't even "cheating"
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Wow this thread really has it all
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money is the reason why wrote:
GreatDane wrote:
The bigger question is why are shoe companies releasing racing shoes that are illegal to race in?
They were probably wearing some road racing carbon shoes, which have been banned in tracks for a while now. They're not illegal on the roads, unless they're over the 40 mm rule. The reason why shoe companies are making racing shoes over that stack height is simple. Hobby joggers running boston or nyc marathon aren't going get DQ if they are wearing the Adidas Prime X, Asics super blast, or the hoka skyward x. And there are a lot of people willing to spend the money on a banned shoe if they think it's going increase their chance of running faster.
If the shoe companies can't find common ground with race organizers of what's allowable or not, there's going to be a lot of confusion and pi$$ed off runners/consumers. Coming from a business perspective, shoe companies should include a disclaimer on the shoes/box that the shoes are not legal/allowable to compete in certain road races/track meets. Who wants to purchase a 300+ dollar shoe and be DQ'd?
This isn't rocket science, just friggin' running shoes.
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BiggerQuestion wrote:
GreatDane wrote:
The bigger question is why are shoe companies releasing racing shoes that are illegal to race in?
The even bigger question is who is the runner from Hampton running 15:45 and why aren’t they running the 800? A quick world athletics shows a best of 1:58 for 800. That could win ncaas.
It’s a MAN
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Justice is served wrote:
I saw that Northeastern women lost the conference as well. Cheaters never prosper
Screw you.
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“Bruh! Like, they can’t DQ ‘em bruh! Like, then all shoes are illegal bruh! Like, they can’t stop tech bruh! Like, what’re they gonna do now!? Like, ban non-dirt tracks bruh! Like, now they’re gonna have to ban spikes too bruh! Like, bruh…”
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