Rocky Hansen 3:50 anchor leg outkicking Ethan Strand

Nick Old wrote:

Closed? He has surpassed him.

TheRealScotty wrote:

No. He did not even run as fast as Strand yesterday.

Strand is older and is better right now. Guy ran 3:48.3y winning.

THOUGHTSLEADER wrote:

GWT wrote:

Yeah, I like Hansen's chances of mixing it up for a potential win in the 5k. He's a fearless racer, and are the leaders really going to create a 13:05 or faster pace that it might take to shake him? That's doubtful.. After this DMR close, I like his chances for the win.

The 5K is weaker too right if there’s no Wolfe? Samuel is great but after that Abdalla (also very good) and then all beatable guys. I’m assuming the Nova guys scratch and Musau probably does too. I’d put Hansen 3rd then, with Kipkurui and Schubert as dark horses.

THOUGHTSLEADER wrote:

The 5K is weaker too right if there’s no Wolfe? Samuel is great but after that Abdalla (also very good) and then all beatable guys. I’m assuming the Nova guys scratch and Musau probably does too. I’d put Hansen 3rd then, with Kipkurui and Schubert as dark horses.

IThinkISawThis wrote:

I’m pretty sure I remember Liam Murphy of Nova saying he wanted to do the 5k/3k double at NCAAs in an interview after his 13:10, and I bet Langon does the same. Neither currently have a qualifier in the mile since now 3:54 mid isn’t enough…unless they go for it at big east

TheRealScotty wrote:

With Birnbaum's injuries, yes, Hansen has surpassed him by a bit. The 3:52.8y mark that SB posted is a 3:51.5 1600m equivalent and that was a month ago. Not bad. If he is hurt again, Birnbaum is at a disadvantage to Hansen (who has remained healthy).

Peach Pit wrote:

Do we know Wolfe isn't running? Is he the one that got norovirus recently?

I don't know that Samuel and Abdalla have the speed to outkick Hansen after seeing that DMR, and idk if they're strong enough to take it out of him. Samuel's 13:04, and Abdalla's 7:34 are amazing marks, but I don't know that the gap is big enough to 13:14 (especially when Hansen led a lot of it). Abdalla did anchor a DMR to a title though, so maybe I'm not giving him enough credit, I'm still thinking of him as the marathon guy lol. Hansen also might be on tired legs idk the order of NCAAs. Idk 3rd is probably a good o/u for him

Peach Pit wrote:

Hansen had a running start for his 3:50, but Birnbaum didn't win, so I give them pretty equal performances (although I doubt Birnbaum can run 13:14). I haven't heard about Birnbaum being injured though, that would suck. Fwiw I think Hansen did pick up an injury last year, although Birnbaum has seemingly been injured almost constantly.

Kickers usually win wrote:

So many of you will take one race as an absolute. Do you really think Hansen could beat Strand in a mile?

THOUGHTSLEADER wrote:

The running start has to be negated by the fact it was a real race ~ lightning quick lap 1, slow laps 3-6, speedy last 400. I know you don’t want to give away times but hard not to watch it and think he isn’t sub-3:50 in a fast time trial.

THOUGHTSLEADER wrote:

Peach Pit wrote:

Hansen had a running start for his 3:50, but Birnbaum didn't win, so I give them pretty equal performances (although I doubt Birnbaum can run 13:14). I haven't heard about Birnbaum being injured though, that would suck. Fwiw I think Hansen did pick up an injury last year, although Birnbaum has seemingly been injured almost constantly.

The running start has to be negated by the fact it was a real race ~ lightning quick lap 1, slow laps 3-6, speedy last 400. I know you don’t want to give away times but hard not to watch it and think he isn’t sub-3:50 in a fast time trial.

TheRealScotty wrote:

This 1600m converts to 3:51.5x chasing. I'm sure he is ready for a big mile.. Not sure if he is going 3:50.00, but he might. He had a nice trip yesterday.

Peach Pit wrote:

TheRealScotty wrote:

With Birnbaum's injuries, yes, Hansen has surpassed him by a bit. The 3:52.8y mark that SB posted is a 3:51.5 1600m equivalent and that was a month ago. Not bad. If he is hurt again, Birnbaum is at a disadvantage to Hansen (who has remained healthy).

Hansen had a running start for his 3:50, but Birnbaum didn't win, so I give them pretty equal performances (although I doubt Birnbaum can run 13:14). I haven't heard about Birnbaum being injured though, that would suck. Fwiw I think Hansen did pick up an injury last year, although Birnbaum has seemingly been injured almost constantly.

TheRealScotty wrote:

Peach Pit wrote:

Hansen had a running start for his 3:50, but Birnbaum didn't win, so I give them pretty equal performances (although I doubt Birnbaum can run 13:14). I haven't heard about Birnbaum being injured though, that would suck. Fwiw I think Hansen did pick up an injury last year, although Birnbaum has seemingly been injured almost constantly.

I believe Birnbaum is only Prep ever under 8:40y and 1:48 800m, and he was 5.90 seconds under the 2mile mark. Very rare combination of strength and speed.

Has a real problem with his health. Any idea what is nagging him??