when you throw around "legit," i would separate out "real" from "legal." it's "real," but perhaps in the same sense it was real for a day or two they were going to freeze grant spending. then a judge said "stay" and they at least pretended to yank it back. i say pretended because story goes he's leaving the stay up because leavitt tried to parse whether she really meant that grants are back flowing.
i think it's unauthorized.
i think it also violates the antideficiency act.
i think these days we routinely have cowboy debt showdowns causing government shutdowns where spending gets stopped.
i think it would be typical trump to offer something he can't do and hasn't funded to make people do what he wants.
Yup, it's an unconstitutional offer and clearly an Elon/Donny stiff-the-workers bait and switch. If someone resigned they would NOT get paid.
I think the offer is there because they plan on terminated a large number of people. If you are really good you may get a new job description and stay employed. Im not sure if it is true but I thought it was said 8 months was the most they could legally give you.
It is a tough decision. It would be wise to look for other work immediately. In the end you will likely have to settle with them and you may not have leverage.
"No Money shall be drawn from the Treasury, but in Consequence of Appropriations made by Law; and a regular Statement and Account of the Receipts and Expenditures of all public Money shall be published from time to time."
guarantee of a republican form of government.
first amendment to the extent he is running off dissent to fill the slots with GOP.
paying people to not work who have tendered their resignation.
stay at your job but just stop working. I'm betting it'll take longer than 8 months to fire you.
As someone with experience working for the fed (seasonal employee almost 20 years ago) I would be shocked if OP is doing any sort of actual work.
The job itself is pretty stereotypical. I do the work they give me, but it really isn't that much. If other people are overwhelmed they're really dropping the ball on getting me to help or letting me know I'm too trash at what I'm doing to help. I honestly think this work could very well be done with fewer people. The lack of work makes it very unfulfilling. Spending 90 minute round trip commuting to complete the actual work in the morning and then having less things to do on the internet sucks. I've had some good experiences in this place that make it feel like not a complete waste being here, but if I stick around too long the nature of the job will turn me into a stereotypical government employee, and I gotta get off that path while I still can.
As someone with experience working for the fed (seasonal employee almost 20 years ago) I would be shocked if OP is doing any sort of actual work.
The job itself is pretty stereotypical. I do the work they give me, but it really isn't that much. If other people are overwhelmed they're really dropping the ball on getting me to help or letting me know I'm too trash at what I'm doing to help. I honestly think this work could very well be done with fewer people. The lack of work makes it very unfulfilling. Spending 90 minute round trip commuting to complete the actual work in the morning and then having less things to do on the internet sucks. I've had some good experiences in this place that make it feel like not a complete waste being here, but if I stick around too long the nature of the job will turn me into a stereotypical government employee, and I gotta get off that path while I still can.
trolls can be stereotypical too. Actually govt employees are generally overworked and quite proud of the work they do for We the People. You sound like a troll.
Why would you believe you would get paid? Pres does NOT have 'power of the purse'. Would Congress okay this? No way.
Are you dumb? The likelihood of getting paid is the same as it would be he continued working. The offer is that you get to stay on staff with salary and benefits for 8 months without having so show up for work.
As someone with experience working for the fed (seasonal employee almost 20 years ago) I would be shocked if OP is doing any sort of actual work.
The job itself is pretty stereotypical. I do the work they give me, but it really isn't that much. If other people are overwhelmed they're really dropping the ball on getting me to help or letting me know I'm too trash at what I'm doing to help. I honestly think this work could very well be done with fewer people. The lack of work makes it very unfulfilling. Spending 90 minute round trip commuting to complete the actual work in the morning and then having less things to do on the internet sucks. I've had some good experiences in this place that make it feel like not a complete waste being here, but if I stick around too long the nature of the job will turn me into a stereotypical government employee, and I gotta get off that path while I still can.
hes not trolling. This sounds exactly like a government job. I went government to corporate and the level of intensity was night and day. tons of pressure, fear of getting fired if you screw up, people barely surfing the web in the office, short lunches, meetings all day, emails well into the evening.
government job there were days I literally did nothing. like just sat there with nothing to do. sometimes weeks.
most of the task people had could be done in 1 hour of focused work and then rest of day they could go home.
I would not trust that you would get paid if the government shuts down in March. Do you think the American people really want to pay federal workers to do nothing for 8 months? Congress could pass a budget that specifically discludes paying these people.
Trump is likely to cause a recession or depression if his policies aren't checked - policies like the tariffs and ending or hampering so many federal services. It may be hard to get another job if you quit your federal job.
If you are feeling stressed out, head over to r/fednews on reddit. There are a lot of federal employees talking about things and many are very knowledgeable on the law.
I consider you read the words of Robert Reich, former Secretary of Labor, before you rashly decide to resign:
I’m addressing this post to America’s 2.3 million federal employees.My message: Don’t accept Elon’s offer. Yesterday, Musk — via people he’s planted in the Office of Personnel Management — sent an email to all 2.3 million of...
As someone with experience working for the fed (seasonal employee almost 20 years ago) I would be shocked if OP is doing any sort of actual work.
The job itself is pretty stereotypical. I do the work they give me, but it really isn't that much. If other people are overwhelmed they're really dropping the ball on getting me to help or letting me know I'm too trash at what I'm doing to help. I honestly think this work could very well be done with fewer people. The lack of work makes it very unfulfilling. Spending 90 minute round trip commuting to complete the actual work in the morning and then having less things to do on the internet sucks. I've had some good experiences in this place that make it feel like not a complete waste being here, but if I stick around too long the nature of the job will turn me into a stereotypical government employee, and I gotta get off that path while I still can.
That 90 minute commute sounds like it blows. Run away
i don't think what he's offering is authorized by the constitution or congress. so, for similar reasons to the 2 biden student loan reliefs i got screwed out of by the courts in recent years, i would not take the bait until it's blessed by the court system. otherwise you're not just out of a job, you're deprived of the carrot.
elon's hand is now obvious, i didn't know about the RTO part. it is quite the dictator thing to be like, i don't care if your work is fine and present unnecessary, you're going to be here "just because."
also, remembering that elon is a donor demanding this from millions of government workers, while not even in any recognized government post.
They’re…..they’re making you pay back the loan you agreed to. My god. Those absolute monsters.
My advice is: get advice elsewhere, i.e. given what's at stake it's well worth paying to speak to a professional in person who is well versed in these matters ASAP.
You can't wait until it's passed through congress/passed into law unfortunately because you have to decide by 6th Feb.
Otherwise it would be worth waiting out to see.
He will look terrible if it doesn't happen, plus they're trying to reduce the size of gment so this incentivises it severely and is probably cheaper overall so it may be paid. However, there are easy ways to get around this and you probably have no comeback at all (I'm not overly familiar with the legal system in the US, but that's my interpretation of it). You're on probation for starters.
I also think it may depend on how many people take it up. It was sent to 2M people out of over 3M.
I could see a situation arising where it isn't paid out and it turns into "Trump wanted to do this, to give the workers 8 months pay, but was blocked by..."
Unions and attorneys who represent federal employees are telling workers not to take the offer from the Trump administration to resign from their jobs by Feb. 6 and still be paid through September.
My agency (not OPM) sent out an email saying it was legit and they plan on paying it out. It could be a thing to say "well we gave you a chance for 8 months" to people laid off. Being near the front of that line makes my risk calculation way different from someone who has been in a while and likes the job.
Current federal funding ends on March 14, 2025, so your agency might say they "plan" on paying it out, but that doesn't mean they "can" pay it out. So there's no guarantee that the OP will get "8 months of pay to look for a new job" to avoid a layoff risk.
If this is true all the more reason to cut government spending and get the thing back on more solid financial footing.
And if they run out of money, then the offer is definitely off the table.
