UPenn Mile - Marco Langon (3:54.60) over Liam Murphy (3:54.61) & Gary Martin (3:54.94)

Mid 3:54 probably doesn’t make the NCAAs… ok that is a bit of a stretch but they could be in the bottom 1/3rd of the list. yeah I know at least one of them is probably doing 5k/3k

No argument here, on that, and I doubt either will be "chasing " better Mile Marks. They are now top 6? You need to get into top 16?

Actually, comparing at same points in career, it is inarguable that Langon is faster.

They are 2 grades in school apart (3rd, 5th) and 29 months in age.

Langon was a better HS runner and has been better thus far in college.

Both guys are very good.

Matsatsa has run a touch faster than this. 3:54.15

Lots of guys in the new era run under 3:55.

Langon said he went out in 61, so with better pacing, he was certainly capable of 3:52.

You know better than that

Does not work like that

They had faster fractions to chase that’s a decision you make as a runner

out harder closes much slower

there was plenty of time to make up slow start

I am a fan and he’s not running 3:52 yet

When he runs 3:52 he's a 3:52 guy.

Right now he's a 3:54.6 guy.

They'll run the Big East 3/5 table but I think T-Matsatsa would torch them over a mile.

Matsatsa is truly great but not sure about torching them at a mile, Very evenly matched in that event, in my opinion.

We’ll see after scratches…might load up on DMR anyhow. 3K becomes more enticing.

Clear a path, empty the mag, kill everything. Langon and Murphy will come out on top

It’s crazy how similar Wolfe’s PRs a year ago are to Langon’s in the mile and 5k. Both 3:54 in the mile with a strong close. Wolfe 13:13 at BU in December 23. Langon 13:14 at BU in December 24. That would put Langon around 7:37 for 3k at BU, give or take.

Martin ran 7:36 , in that 3K with Wolfe ..Langon was 4 seconds faster last year at 3K, 7:43-7:47.x and is now 17 faster at 5K , altho I think Gary Martin could run 13;20 or so. My guess is Langon can run under 7:35 , maybe closer to 7:30.

Great Run!!!!

you should know better than saying the video was 'entitled' something. Entitled means to have privilege of something. I am pretty sure you meant 'titled', which describes what something is called.

Good lord it seems like everyone in the NCAA with a pulse can run 3:59 and the Young twins are still running slower than their junior year of high school

In your world, no one would ever run faster than they have before. You cannot make up for a 61 in a mile race. Ryun could close in 53 after that kind of start but he would have been sub-3:50 with a 57-58 start, even with a slower finish. You lose 3-4 seconds the first 440y and more the next couple laps, you're not getting it back on the last one. Closer to even pace will get you your fastest times at the mile.

Not what I am saying at all, in my world, you run what you ran, you do not get credit for faster, maybe next time it happens, but if you choose to go 61/59 instead of 60/57.5 to the half? You don't get credit for 3:52 from 3:54.60. Think what you want. Insult me all you want.