I think if you do it at your half marathon pace there may be some benefit to this.
I would only do it occasionally though.
I think if you do it at your half marathon pace there may be some benefit to this.
I would only do it occasionally though.
Ancient wrote:
I think if you do it at your half marathon pace there may be some benefit to this.
I would only do it occasionally though.
A 10 mile run at HMP isn't a tempo, it's a near race effort and would require far more recovery time than it's worth.
For the average 10 k runner, probably the most important workout of the week.
Looking at Coach B using a VDot chart he said 5:30 pace this is 72min for a half marathon.
Im thinking 31:15 is likely sub 70 min. 10 miles is fast but 3 miles less then the race and a little slower. Yes it is a hard workout but may have a place to help with late race strength.
My first thought when I read coach B chart was thinking 5 35 to 5:40. 5:30 would be tough running by yourself.
Yes. I couldn't do 10 miles at 5:30 pace. That would be a race for me. I would be trashed for 3-4 days.
Yes 1500M I was wrong a half marathon PB pace may be a little quick. It would have to be treated similar to a race. 10 seconds per mile slower give or take a few is about right. Or just follow what coach B said.
I am surprised a 70min is 5:20 pace. I was thinking 5:40.
I followed Pfitzinger's second lowest mileage plan to achieve my 10K PRs. I PR'd twice, once in the middle of the plan and then at the end. It was my best performance at any distance in my life, and I did it at age 42. Generally speaking, I've had great success following Pfitzinger's plans in Advanced Road Running.
He calls for longish runs. How long is long? They were my longest of the week, and in terms of pace probably somewhere around marathon pace. But if you're a hobbyjogger putting in 30 - 50 mpw, I'd just follow Pfitzinger's plans to the letter. If you're more serious, I'd get a coach you trust.
Any coach that uses the work steady state is a idiot
I don't see the point. I set 8k PRs (xc, so very similar to track 10000 / road 10k) off high mileage and constant threshold work
Dumber Dumb wrote:
Any coach that uses the work steady state is a idiot
Lydiard used the term steady state. Canova uses the term. My old college coach used the term.
it’s anything between LT1 and LT2, but we knew my coach meant we should be close to LT2 but a couple of ticks below.
They're good during base training where intensity is lower and volume is higher. Once the intensity picks up, splitting these up into a double to maintain volume seemed to fair better. I found myself not feeling recovered for the next workout if I did these as workouts became more intense. I've run decently fast.
Most people have a marathon pace slower than their normal easy pace.