Your point being? You intentionally didn’t include any of the Americans on their in ur post. their women’s team has a few Americans in their top 7. UNMs 2nd place team a few years back was majority European and Australian but nobody complained. you posted that roster like there’s something wrong with it
What I posted is every person on their current roster.
Your point being? You intentionally didn’t include any of the Americans on their in ur post. their women’s team has a few Americans in their top 7. UNMs 2nd place team a few years back was majority European and Australian but nobody complained. you posted that roster like there’s something wrong with it
Why is it ridiculous??? It makes the American college runners better by running against world class competition. Remember Salazar and Rono? Your not gonna get better running against national class runners lol
He is very good but I also remember racing (does it count as a race if you are 35 seconds behind?) Lawi Lalang after he ran 13:03 in Europe.
Or racing Sam Chelanga after he broke 27:00
good get for them. Honestly I think it is kinda of cool, the NCAA is becoming far and away the best track organization globally.
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Lawi’s 13:03 is highly underrated, in my opinion. That was before the super shoes/spikes era. Of course, he also took a massive nosedive not long after that, so there’s always a possibility that something strange was going on. Would be interesting to know the backstory.
Why is it ridiculous??? It makes the American college runners better by running against world class competition. Remember Salazar and Rono? Your not gonna get better running against national class runners lol
Yeah I gotta imagine the international runners joining the NCAA over the years has contributed to the Americans becoming world class.
Your point being? You intentionally didn’t include any of the Americans on their in ur post. their women’s team has a few Americans in their top 7. UNMs 2nd place team a few years back was majority European and Australian but nobody complained. you posted that roster like there’s something wrong with it
They have no male Americans.
They have American distance runners on their roster. They just didn’t put them on the XC roster. they left out the people who redshirted this XC season
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This is sad news for any 9:00-9:15 high schoolers in New Mexico who were hoping to run for UNM. Another state university spot taken away from a local kid for a foreigner.
New Mexico’s top American signing for 2025 just placed 7th at footlocker. Show me the last 100% American roster to win a national title. Providence’s entire top 7 for their 3rd place team weren’t American yet we never hear any crying about it. I wonder what makes Providence’s team different from New Mexico…
Because nobody cares about weak women's teams in a weak year?
BYU's white age cheats are often criticized as well.
This is sad news for any 9:00-9:15 high schoolers in New Mexico who were hoping to run for UNM. Another state university spot taken away from a local kid for a foreigner.
New Mexico’s top American signing for 2025 just placed 7th at footlocker. Show me the last 100% American roster to win a national title. Providence’s entire top 7 for their 3rd place team weren’t American yet we never hear any crying about it. I wonder what makes Providence’s team different from New Mexico…
I hate to say it but with Strand and Wolfe going 7:30 as well as a slew of others sub 7:40, this 13:05 / 7:38 guy isn’t that impressive. I mean yeah he’ll be a great low stick in addition to Samuel but def-o not the TITAN to take all records as claimed
Yeah this is how I was feeling after XC when OK State fumbled and Samuel came 2nd, and even moreso when American college kids ran 7:30/7:30/7:36/12:59 at one meet after their peak race. For all the hullaballoo they've caused in the last year, non-Americans combined for 1 XC team win and 1 NCAA 10k win that the best guys sat out of (not to denigrate sub-27 guy Habtom Samuel). Americans hold NCAA records from mile-10k, and college kids run faster than the 1500 record every summer. At BYU they win with a roster of guys almost all from Utah. At UW, they've won the last 5 1500/mile titles all with guys who grew up within an hour of campus.
I used to say this more often, but I think the talent has always been here, and it just hasn't been training right. Now that the NCAA is essentially a professional league, with some of the best coaches in the world, inarguably some of the best training and rehab facilities in the world, and the athletes are getting paid (with an education, and now with money from multibillion-dollar brands) to run, and now that they're treating it as such, we're seeing professional level results.
Honestly from a political/economic standpoint, I don't like that we're so deeply tying a professional sports league directly to our upper education system. It's a huge unnecessary cost to most schools, but students still choose to go there, so oh well. Still, from an athletic standpoint, it's gonna be great for the development of our athletes. And it's pretty cool that our country is so prosperous that we're literally importing world junior champions to run for our school track teams.
.... Still, from an athletic standpoint, it's gonna be great for the development of our athletes. And it's pretty cool that our country is so prosperous that we're literally importing world junior champions to run for our school track teams.
Completely agree with this. What a privilege it is to be an NCAA fan in this era when so many of the world's best are coming to run on our doorstep... and what a game-changer for the current crop of American NCAA athletes to have to raise their games to compete against top internationals.
Can there be any doubt that this is part of why we now have Americans going straight from the NCAA to Olympic finals in the distances (Hocker 2021, Blanks, Valby, Whittaker 2024)
Why is it ridiculous??? It makes the American college runners better by running against world class competition. Remember Salazar and Rono? Your not gonna get better running against national class runners lol
Yeah I gotta imagine the international runners joining the NCAA over the years has contributed to the Americans becoming world class.
American resources (and competition) far more contributed to Jack Bruce development and success than staying in OZ.
The internationals get far more out of this arrangement than the Americans. Far more.
Remind me the last time an American was on athletic scholarship at an Australian university. Remind me the last time an American was developed by NSW Institute of Sport.
That’s his 2023 performances. In 2024, he “only” ran 7:46.63 (3000m).
That would have only been the 26th NCAA performance indoor 23/24
He battled injuries all year after making the senior Kenyan world XC team. He rallied to just miss the medals at World Juniors. Make no mistake this is a bigger talent than Brian Musau and he excels at cross country in particular.
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There was no need to state the obvious. When reading that he ACTUALLY made the Kenyan Senior team but only ran 7:46 outdoors, Xgicg should have reduced that the youngster suffered an injury.
Your point being? You intentionally didn’t include any of the Americans on their in ur post. their women’s team has a few Americans in their top 7. UNMs 2nd place team a few years back was majority European and Australian but nobody complained. you posted that roster like there’s something wrong with it
He showed their entire men’s roster. He didn’t include any Americans because there are none to include. They are taking the old UTEP approach.