Julien Wanders - back to old coach / split with Renato Canova

the training works wrote:

Come on, everyone.

Wanders just needs to follow the Jessica Hull model: move back home, spend time with family, and enjoy a magical 3-4% improvement at age 28.

If Hull can take of ~7 seconds in the 1500 in one season, imagine how good Wanders will be when this training secret gives him a 3:00-4:00 improvement in the marathon!

concordo wrote:

Is he still living in Kenya? During the years I lived there, my performance and body really took a beating. A few years away did me wonders in getting back on track. It’s not for everybody, especially if you didn’t grow up there. But perhaps the bigger issue is over-exerting himself in workouts, as one suggested. It would be interesting to see him taking an Ingebrigtsen-style / sub-maximal approach to training. Julien is a monster talent and seems like a great guy. I wish him the best with his coaching change 💪

concordo wrote:

Is he still living in Kenya? During the years I lived there, my performance and body really took a beating. A few years away did me wonders in getting back on track. It’s not for everybody, especially if you didn’t grow up there. But perhaps the bigger issue is over-exerting himself in workouts, as one suggested. It would be interesting to see him taking an Ingebrigtsen-style / sub-maximal approach to training. Julien is a monster talent and seems like a great guy. I wish him the best with his coaching change 💪

Jakob is so sexy 8~~~ wrote:

It's all setting up nicely for a Wanders vs Ingebrigtsen battle for the 10000 WR

Zella wrote:

Jakob is so sexy 8~~~ wrote:

It's all setting up nicely for a Wanders vs Ingebrigtsen battle for the 10000 WR

If Wanders manages not to be lapped twice by Ingebrigtsen, it is a great achievement in today's situation (Jakob 26:30 / Wanders 28:55 shape)

Ghost1 wrote:

Zella wrote:

If Wanders manages not to be lapped twice by Ingebrigtsen, it is a great achievement in today's situation (Jakob 26:30 / Wanders 28:55 shape)

Combination of factors:

1. Julien peaked early in 2019 at age 22/23.

2. Training too hard, all the time for years. Not enough recovery.

3. Living Training at altitude may not be optimal. Probably altitude a few months per year is better.

4. Nutrition: Julien's diet may have been inadequate for his energy expenditure. Example, he needed 3000/3500 per day, but was consuming 2300-2500, little more than the average American. xemptyz5. Injuries, pneumonia, COVID, etc...all contributed to reducing his performance level.

Will he get back to 13:13/27:17/59:13? I hope so. Is it realistic? Probably not.

Money, he's from Switzerland, among the countries highest per capita on the globe, so he'll never struggle. He has options.

over-rated shuffler wrote:

surely he'll struggle more than most as he will not be able to afford to buy a property due to scraping a living off sponsor handouts. hes not going to have won enough prize money to even need to declare it with the taxman. he would be richer off stacking shelves in a supermarket than running over the past 10 years of his life

Ghost1 wrote:

Zella wrote:

If Wanders manages not to be lapped twice by Ingebrigtsen, it is a great achievement in today's situation (Jakob 26:30 / Wanders 28:55 shape)

Combination of factors:

1. Julien peaked early in 2019 at age 22/23.

2. Training too hard, all the time for years. Not enough recovery.

3. Living Training at altitude may not be optimal. Probably altitude a few months per year is better.

4. Nutrition: Julien's diet may have been inadequate for his energy expenditure. Example, he needed 3000/3500 per day, but was consuming 2300-2500, little more than the average American. xemptyz5. Injuries, pneumonia, COVID, etc...all contributed to reducing his performance level.

Will he get back to 13:13/27:17/59:13? I hope so. Is it realistic? Probably not.

Money, he's from Switzerland, among the countries highest per capita on the globe, so he'll never struggle. He has options.

Renato Canova wrote:

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