I’m sure Ozempic has a lot of side effects. My 74 year old dad takes one of the other brands, and he’s lost 45 lbs in 3 months from 310 to 265lbs. I think the side effects are likely worth it in his case.
Some housewife that weighs 140 and wants to get to 125 probably should not be taking it. You can get there with 3-4 months of diet and moderate exercise.
"May have..." Theres that bang-up" reporting Ive talked about. So now weve got solid evidence to shore up Kennedy's sagging rep? Right?
So you see no problem in taking a drug that may cause serious health issues?
You should go read the prescribing information for liraglutide and semaglutide. There, you will see words just like these: indicated to "reduce the risk of major adverse cardiovascular events in adults with type 2 diabetes mellitus and established cardiovascular disease."
In other words, liraglutide and semaglutide have an established benefit for reducing cardiovascular problems, despite the article's clickbait headline, which OP went for.
And a newsflash: almost every drug we take may cause serious health issues if not taken appropriately.
Would you take ozempic knowing there is this correlation, knowing that they haven't tested ozempic at all yet? Would you recommend ozempic to your wife, or your daughter, or your son, before this research can be done to evaluate the long term effects of it?
HELL NO YOU WOULDN'T. Diet and exercise. That's all it takes.
If I was very obese and headed toward an early death and nothing else had worked then absolutely. GLP1 drugs are proven to reduce death from CVD. Unsurprising that they cause muscle loss too. I’m glad people are studying the side effects but the trial data shows they are obviously healthier than being obese.
May, when an actual scientist and not an idiot ex-president's kid says it, is a hypothesis that requires research to prove or disprove.
Now, nothing is free so I have no doubt there will be side effects to these drugs like every other drug. That is where risk reward comes in. Are the side effects less than someone being severely overweight? Probably but remains to be seen. Are the side effects worth the vanity of losing a few pounds to look like you belong in Hollywood? Very unlikely but also we will have to wait and see.
You run to post an article that doesn't say what you say it says "Ozempic is causing heart shrinkage." No where does it say that,
The article is literally titled "Drugs Like Ozempic May Have a Shrinking Effect on The Heart" and you're going full smugtard with "oh yeah they don't know for sure, idiot"
Because sensational headlines is not the same is the content of a scientific study or even the content of an article.
It would seem to me that you want to avoid taking meds whenever possible. If meds are the only alternative, or perhaps the best alternative in the opinion of medical professionals, then so be it. To me it seems that a healthy lifestyle in regard to diet, exercise and strss management is the best option for a lot of things.
Of course! That is the classic dilemma. Like "moderation in all things" could, if established as lifestyle prevent obesity and a host of physical ailments and diseases. How do some women have several babies and always return to slim fit figures? Because, aside from exceptions who are genetic anomalies, it is their practice and lifestyle to eat moderately and well and to exercise or work regularly. But the trend toward obesity is cultural and social influence--the American lifestyle has become excessive and unhealthy.
A prespecified analysis of the SELECT trial revealed that patients assigned to once-weekly subcutaneous semaglutide 2.4 mg lost significantly more weight than those receiving placebo and showed improvements in various anthrop...
Ozempic does cause sarcopenia, and diligent exercise is important. It's not without drawbacks. But being really fat is really bad for you. As other posters have said, I would urge caution using it to shed those last few pounds (as most people in trials were quite obese), but if you're morbidly obese, get on it.
Finally, a big heart outside of endurance athletes is usually due to compensation for high blood pressure or other things which increase afterload. It's eventually a negative.
Yeah, 6’2” now 265 and he’s still kicking. His high weight was about 335lbs ten years ago. He hit the booze pretty hard from about 35 to 67 before he gave it up for health reasons.
He’s retired, but still involved with the family business. I think it’s healthy to keep busy with something you enjoy for longevity, and Wegovy has been good for him.
Edit: Oh, no joke, he’s not vaccinated. Got COVID at 72 and over 300lbs and was barely sick. I encouraged him to get the vax, but he is a stubborn man. Great human being, but very stubborn.
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Geez, reading these threads makes me realize how low science literacy is in the general public.
Semaglutide has been out for a while and has been studied in relatively long term trials. There is a modest reduction in coronary artery disease (), heart failure with preserved ejection fraction (), and heart failure with reduced ejection fraction (). We have data going four years showing .
Ozempic does cause sarcopenia, and diligent exercise is important. It's not without drawbacks. But being really fat is really bad for you. As other posters have said, I would urge caution using it to shed those last few pounds (as most people in trials were quite obese), but if you're morbidly obese, get on it.
Finally, a big heart outside of endurance athletes is usually due to compensation for high blood pressure or other things which increase afterload. It's eventually a negative.
Geez, reading these threads makes me realize how low science literacy is in the general public.
Semaglutide has been out for a while and has been studied in relatively long term trials. There is a modest reduction in coronary artery disease (), heart failure with preserved ejection fraction (), and heart failure with reduced ejection fraction (). We have data going four years showing .
Ozempic does cause sarcopenia, and diligent exercise is important. It's not without drawbacks. But being really fat is really bad for you. As other posters have said, I would urge caution using it to shed those last few pounds (as most people in trials were quite obese), but if you're morbidly obese, get on it.
Finally, a big heart outside of endurance athletes is usually due to compensation for high blood pressure or other things which increase afterload. It's eventually a negative.
So: Ozempics "is not without its drawbacks..."Being fat is really bad for you..." and "...if youre morbidly obese, get on it [Ozempic]" These are Some of your scientific pronouncements?! But I guess Im just going to have to adjust tio the new norm in Scientific literature.
At least check the spelling of your nickname Dr. Science.!
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