She has a stance against my industry, so she won't get my vote lol. I'm not sure a candidate who gets 2% of the national vote in a very good year can suddenly reach 25x that with a party change. Plus the greens big issue - the environment isn't important enough to voters yet. Maybe they'll do well when the planet is really dying in a 2-3 decades.
Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez. I can't see her winning the primary though. Dems will probably try the centrist candidate hoping people are sick of gop policies again. She'd have to go on the attack and inspire people. Winning a 77% minority district that has voted left for decades doesn't give someone the experience to do that.
Newsom - governor of an easy state to win. Won't inspire people in the midwest. Could win primaries though.
Harris - Maybe. People tend to vote for names they know. A bad enough gop candidate could be defeated by her.
Whitmore - Well at least she might win Michigan. She has passed tax cuts which seems to be the top issue for voters.
If the DNC considered Howard Dean too scary to nominate because he yelled real loud at a post-caucus rally one time, there is no way they nominate AOC.
You haven't clearly. Its the poorest district in the US, but nothing like you describe. AOC appeals to poor Americans. After 4 years of Trump, there are guaranteed to be a lot more poor Americans for AOC to appeal to. And hey, if I'm wrong, it should be a slam dunk for the gop candidate who follows Trump.
AOC doesn't appeal to anyone.
Not you, sure. You are going to vote for the libertarian or GOP candidate no matter how heinous their policies though.
Usual caveats aside about how the CIA and elites run the country and so on... history has repeatedly shown that the 2028 nominee in a fresh slate election is going to be someone you don't even think about right now. Political landscapes change a lot in one year, let alone four, and whoever seems like a fresh and ideal choice to you will be nowhere near so in 2028. The likely nominee probably isn't even politically relevant enough for you to know about right now.
Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez. I can't see her winning the primary though. Dems will probably try the centrist candidate hoping people are sick of gop policies again. She'd have to go on the attack and inspire people. Winning a 77% minority district that has voted left for decades doesn't give someone the experience to do that.
Have you seen her home district? It is worse than New Dehli. Prostitutes everywhere. Trash everywhere. Homeless everywhere. If she can't organize efforts to clean up her own district, she has no business running the country.
She represents her district, but she doesn’t govern it.
AOC? You think Kamala got destroyed? That would be nothing like what would happen to AOC. Did you all not learn that the party of condescension isn't going to win elections? AOC is the most condescending, holier than thou one of the bunch.
Hmm. 4 years of Trumpenomics will be so disastrous that Americans are looking for change. So many will be driven into poverty by the recession the gop creates. Stocks might be doing great - but the stock market isn't the savings of real Americans.
What in the actual heck does that have to do with what I said. I never said Democrats can't win in 2028 but they are going to need a different personality to do so. AOC is not that personality. Calling everyone who disagrees with you an -ist, a -phobe, or an idiot isn't going to swing votes.
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Have you seen her home district? It is worse than New Dehli. Prostitutes everywhere. Trash everywhere. Homeless everywhere. If she can't organize efforts to clean up her own district, she has no business running the country.
She represents her district, but she doesn’t govern it.
I never said she governed it. But she represents it. If it is your district, would you not try to clean it up? It is a reflection on her. She seems to not give a damn how awful it is. Would you feel that way if it was your district?
Dem here. After the trouncing received this week, I hope the party holds up a mirror and realizes that the party has to recapture the working and middle class voters with a moderate approach to the social issues that have driven people away.
Certainly, the election shows that racism and sexism are alive and well in the United States, but I hope the Dems get away from whining about that and focus on rebuilding the Big Tent. People would rather take their chances voting for the village idiot than have biological boys playing on girl's sports teams. Instead of crying about that or insulting run of the mill Republicans as having their priorities messed up, the Dems need to return to reason and logic.
I don't think that I am wrong in saying that 80% of Americans fall within 15% of the middle of the political spectrum. I believe a moderate from either party would be very appealing to a majority of us. I think that will be even more true after 4 years of images of deporting children, US-subsidized genocide, government-endorsed political prosecution, and perpetual-school shootings. I think we are all fine with a little pendulum swinging, but the current swing is just too dramatic for our well-being. From a lawless, social justice warrior nanny state, open-border free for all to fascist, Neo-Nazi loving, Environment-Destroying, Billionaire Ruling Class. I believe we can be less crazy.
Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez. I can't see her winning the primary though. Dems will probably try the centrist candidate hoping people are sick of gop policies again. She'd have to go on the attack and inspire people. Winning a 77% minority district that has voted left for decades doesn't give someone the experience to do that.
Newsom - governor of an easy state to win. Won't inspire people in the midwest. Could win primaries though.
Harris - Maybe. People tend to vote for names they know. A bad enough gop candidate could be defeated by her.
Whitmore - Well at least she might win Michigan. She has passed tax cuts which seems to be the top issue for voters.
No one is going to jump from the House to the presidency. Occasio-Cortez needs to wait about 10 years and become a senator in the meantime. I think her Green Deal will be too much baggage for her.
What governor of an easy state to win, mean?
This time around, Harris was the right person at the right time, but she’ll have no shot in 2028.
I’m hoping there will be a new candidate that isn’t currently on the radar.
"This time around, Harris was the right person, at the right time..."
He actually would be a good candidate. Very articulate. Not crazy-left like Kamala. The Dems could do worse than Mayor Pete. But his biggest accomplishment as Mayor was putting lights under the bridges and he sucked with the other thing.
The way forward for democrats is a universalist class politics.
Message needs to be that if you work hard and play by the rules, no matter who you are, you can have a decent life. Healthcare costs too much, rent is too high, homes are unaffordable, and we're going to do everything we can to make those things attainable by ordinary people. And while we'll be compassionate in reasonable ways on immigration, we're going to prioritize helping people here who need it, right now.
Democrats won on abortion, they won on gay rights, they won the culture war. It's done. Trump will be out office and they'll, thankfully, have no reason to run against a person rather than on issues. They need a vision for ordinary people.
Basically, they need a Bernie Sanders type who is younger, more affable, and doesn't call himself a socialist.
AOC? You think Kamala got destroyed? That would be nothing like what would happen to AOC. Did you all not learn that the party of condescension isn't going to win elections? AOC is the most condescending, holier than thou one of the bunch.
Hmm. 4 years of Trumpenomics will be so disastrous that Americans are looking for change. So many will be driven into poverty by the recession the gop creates. Stocks might be doing great - but the stock market isn't the savings of real Americans.
THIS^^. How quickly we forget just how bad his economy was after his first term.
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