Look, it is fair that some of you ex-buffs that Carlson inherited are bitter.
Frankly, as an adult and former all conference runner in the 5,000 and XC, it is blatantly obvious these are the same kids acting petulant and immature.
With each thread angry at Carlson, you just lose sympathy. Business is business.
5th in a loaded Big 12 in XC in his first season is nothing to scoff at, FYI. That’s where you have me lost.
He’s in the arena alight. Misguiding athletes putting forth their time and effort. Pretending he knows anything about lactate testing then eyeballing results for the double LT days. He’ll continue to fail upwards in the arena where others have to put in the work.
Let's see if I have this right -- Carlson comes in end of July, releases about half the men's team claiming he's in "win now" mode (completely scrambling those young men's lives 2 weeks before season begins), commits recruiting violations, and then coaches Colorado to 5th in Big 12s. Can you choke any worse? Essentially, he used the season to solidify his reputation for not giving a damn about athletes in his program. Excellent work Sean and Rick G. I'm sure future recruiting will go great. Why wouldn't you take the job, Dathan? I know... you didn't want to work for Rick.
You don't have it right. What coach could possibly come in July and have an impact on that fall's xc results?
I don't like his style either, but the roster moves he made had nothing to do with 2024, rather for 2025 and beyond.
Serious question - were/are any of the runners Carlson kicked off the team able to transfer/run for another school this x-c season?
In other words - are all these Colorado rejects still at Colorado this semester?
In other other words - what is their current status?
Thanks in advance for the intelligent, mature response I will get on this.
Let's see if I have this right -- Carlson comes in end of July, releases about half the men's team claiming he's in "win now" mode (completely scrambling those young men's lives 2 weeks before season begins), commits recruiting violations, and then coaches Colorado to 5th in Big 12s. Can you choke any worse? Essentially, he used the season to solidify his reputation for not giving a damn about athletes in his program. Excellent work Sean and Rick G. I'm sure future recruiting will go great. Why wouldn't you take the job, Dathan? I know... you didn't want to work for Rick.
This post is for those with no skin in this game, who are just curious. I don't think LaCCTiC is perfect, but I believe it provides a solid basis for comparison.
16) 22:52 - transfer; 1st season at CU 26) 23:17 - transfer; 1st season at CU 27) 23:20 - last year's conference LaCCTiC equivalent - 14:15; this year - 14:02 29) 23:22 - last year's conference equivalent - 14:31; this year - 14:03 31) 23:24 - 1st conference meet; best LaCCTic last yr - 15:04; at Big 12s - 14:05 33) 23:29 - last year's conference equivalent - 14:52; this year - 14:07 39) 23:37 - last year's conference equivalent - 14:27; this year - 14:12 40) 23:45 - 7th freshman in the race (first non-Kenyan freshman)
These anti-Carlson threads are tiresome. They provide no new information, and are so clearly written by a small number of people who are very deeply, personally offended and affected by the coaching change at CU. I am sympathetic, but this will be the last Carlson-bash thread of theirs I waste my time reading.
But from the above, it's very clear that Carlson and CU did not choke at Big 12.
This post is for those with no skin in this game, who are just curious. I don't think LaCCTiC is perfect, but I believe it provides a solid basis for comparison.
16) 22:52 - transfer; 1st season at CU 26) 23:17 - transfer; 1st season at CU 27) 23:20 - last year's conference LaCCTiC equivalent - 14:15; this year - 14:02 29) 23:22 - last year's conference equivalent - 14:31; this year - 14:03 31) 23:24 - 1st conference meet; best LaCCTic last yr - 15:04; at Big 12s - 14:05 33) 23:29 - last year's conference equivalent - 14:52; this year - 14:07 39) 23:37 - last year's conference equivalent - 14:27; this year - 14:12 40) 23:45 - 7th freshman in the race (first non-Kenyan freshman)
These anti-Carlson threads are tiresome. They provide no new information, and are so clearly written by a small number of people who are very deeply, personally offended and affected by the coaching change at CU. I am sympathetic, but this will be the last Carlson-bash thread of theirs I waste my time reading.
But from the above, it's very clear that Carlson and CU did not choke at Big 12.
Absolutely right, these threads obviously by someone he cut are getting old, pretty sure each race they are placing higher then projected.
All of this will be settled at regionals, stop with the Lacticc crap that bases results off times in XC. It’s incredibly stupid to act like times matter in XC when in reality it’s all about place. Same with comparing athletes year to year. Some years an athlete can be healthy and run the times of his or her life while the next year can be disastrous. These stupid threads about Carlson are a testament to his intentions as a coach and human!
All of this will be settled at regionals, stop with the Lacticc crap that bases results off times in XC. It’s incredibly stupid to act like times matter in XC when in reality it’s all about place. Same with comparing athletes year to year. Some years an athlete can be healthy and run the times of his or her life while the next year can be disastrous. These stupid threads about Carlson are a testament to his intentions as a coach and human!
From the "About" page on Lacctic:
"The primary component in your TiC score is how you perform relative to your peers in cross country races, and how your peers perform relative to others.It does not matter why a course is slow or fast - all that matters is that all runners are affected equally."
Obvi not gospel, but those numbers above seem to show that there's no reason to think those colorado returners performed worse at conference this year
It is cross country....who gives a s*** besides skinny non athletic white guys who run cross country.
Carlson took over in the middle of the summer and they finished 5th. OK. If a new head football coach took over in the middle of the summer and they finished 5th in a power conference, they would get praise. Just look at Colorado's football team. Deion was there like 9 months before his first game and Colorado didn't do to well with a ton of transfers and had a losing record. This year, they are 6-2 so far and ranked.
