This one had a FAT start and finish. The NFL for some reason still hand times
Where are you getting that it was FAT?
I think that the NFL and most times are semi AT. The start time is electronic but the finish is manual.
I believe it's actually flipped as the timing gates are at the end. Based on youtube frame viewing (with a better angle), it's more like ~4.5 from first twitch to torso crossing the line. I think Walker's time is more legit because of the higher gates. In the NFL Combine, it's so low the knees can easily stop the time.
I'm biased as I 'm a parent of a Hawkeye Track & Field athlete on the team, and have met Kalen Walker on a couple of occasions. He's a talented and humble young man who is a super nice guy away from the track.
Every track program in the country should pay attention. Run a dual meet sprint race at half time against the other team. Iowa played Northwestern in football with no track team but this weekend 7pm vs Wisconsin under the lights. Would be an awesome, maybe 3v3 race.
A friend of mine told me he once did an invitational high school mile during half time of some HS football game at night under the lights. He said it was a big crowd going crazy,
Do they still do this or does anyplace else do anything similar?
Running has had larger spectator views in the USA when the events are held in venues where people are rather than in venues where people have to go to watch the event..
NYC, Chicago and other big marathons and road races attract large numbers of spectators. Some invitational pro pole vault and shot put competitions attract many spectators when held on the street or in shopping malls.
Generally no admission fee for spectators at those types of events.
The stadiums would be filled to capacity if something like the Olympic T&F Trials had free spectator admission, even in Eugene
Walker was a football player, Most fast football players were former sprinters/hurdlers,
Yeah Walker is a lot lighter than the average football player. That’s got to make a difference.
Yes it makes a difference, but the point is top track speed is faster than top football speed. What makes you suited for football is being 'big enough' as well as 'fast enough'. If you're just big, it won't cut it, if you're just fast it won't cut it. You need a blend of both. I do get annoyed though when they make it seem like fast football players would potentially be just as fast as top sprinters. There's zero chance of that. Tyreek Hill ran 6.65 60m a couple years ago, and DK Metcalf ran 10.3 ish for the 100m a few years ago. They're supposed to be some of the fastest football players in the NFL. It is pretty fast, but nowhere near elite sprint times. Kalen Walker ran 6.51 60m last year and got 2nd at NCAAs, that's why he ran 4.15 for the 40 yard and is faster than any football player's combine results. He also ran sub 10.10 early outdoors before getting hurt. I bet Lyles could run around 4.10, maybe 4.09 in a 40y.
I think that the NFL and most times are semi AT. The start time is electronic but the finish is manual.
I think it is the opposite in fact. They start "on motion," but the finish is recorded accurately. There have been guys in the 6.5x range who in NFL testing could barely go under 4.30, which indicates that this Iowa guy has a great early burst.
The 40-yard dash is a sprint covering 40 yards (36.576 m). It is primarily run to evaluate the speed and acceleration of American football players by scouts, particularly for the NFL draft but also for collegiate recruiting....
Walker was a football player, Most fast football players were former sprinters/hurdlers,
Yeah Walker is a lot lighter than the average football player. That’s got to make a difference.
Yes, that is the basic reason that track guys are faster than football players. But it's usually the football players and their supporters that think they're just as fast as the track guys in their football shape/size, and anytime they've tried to show it the track guys prove them wrong. That's why people say things like "there's football speed and then there's track speed."
A friend of mine told me he once did an invitational high school mile during half time of some HS football game at night under the lights. He said it was a big crowd going crazy,
Do they still do this or does anyplace else do anything similar?
Running has had larger spectator views in the USA when the events are held in venues where people are rather than in venues where people have to go to watch the event..
NYC, Chicago and other big marathons and road races attract large numbers of spectators. Some invitational pro pole vault and shot put competitions attract many spectators when held on the street or in shopping malls.
Generally no admission fee for spectators at those types of events.
The stadiums would be filled to capacity if something like the Olympic T&F Trials had free spectator admission, even in Eugene
I heard once that a couple of schools in Minnesota put something like this together. Two of the biggest schools in the state were playing each other in football and they each put like 10 guys in a halftime mile.
Yeah Walker is a lot lighter than the average football player. That’s got to make a difference.
Yes it makes a difference, but the point is top track speed is faster than top football speed. What makes you suited for football is being 'big enough' as well as 'fast enough'. If you're just big, it won't cut it, if you're just fast it won't cut it. You need a blend of both. I do get annoyed though when they make it seem like fast football players would potentially be just as fast as top sprinters. There's zero chance of that. Tyreek Hill ran 6.65 60m a couple years ago, and DK Metcalf ran 10.3 ish for the 100m a few years ago. They're supposed to be some of the fastest football players in the NFL. It is pretty fast, but nowhere near elite sprint times. Kalen Walker ran 6.51 60m last year and got 2nd at NCAAs, that's why he ran 4.15 for the 40 yard and is faster than any football player's combine results. He also ran sub 10.10 early outdoors before getting hurt. I bet Lyles could run around 4.10, maybe 4.09 in a 40y.
NFL players who ran faster than Walkers 10.09.
Bob Hayes, Ron Brown, Alvis Whitted, Jacoby Ford, Trindon Holliday, Darrel Green, Anthony Schwartz Sam Graddy ran 10.09,
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