Really? D'Amato had some sort of foot injury and she dropped rather than potentially do serious damage. I feel bad for her after build-up with Eyestone, but injuries happen...
D'Amato hasn't progress since setting the American record in 2022 and getting tested more regularly. Weird.
Emma Bates is just a psycho that doesn't realize she's only a 2:22 marathoner and not a 2:17 marathoner. She ran 2:24, which should be just fine if she hadn't tried to convince everybody she was better than she is.
Bates is not a psycho. She realizes that no one cares if you say you're in 2:24 shape. That's 11 minutes slower than last year's winner. She got beat by a school teacher. I don't know how someone can support themself as a professional runner running times that are barely faster than a recreational runner.
D'Amato hasn't progress since setting the American record in 2022 and getting tested more regularly. Weird.
Emma Bates is just a psycho that doesn't realize she's only a 2:22 marathoner and not a 2:17 marathoner. She ran 2:24, which should be just fine if she hadn't tried to convince everybody she was better than she is.
Bates is not a psycho. She realizes that no one cares if you say you're in 2:24 shape. That's 11 minutes slower than last year's winner. She got beat by a school teacher. I don't know how someone can support themself as a professional runner running times that are barely faster than a recreational runner.
She can support herself as a professional runner because she finished 5th at the Boston Marathon last year. In 2022 she finished 7th at Worlds and 8th at NYC. In 2021 she was 2nd at Chicago. You obviously know all of this...
Deena Kastor dropped out of the Olympic marathon with a broken foot. Did she tell the press before the marathon started that she had a problem with her foot?
Really? D'Amato had some sort of foot injury and she dropped rather than potentially do serious damage. I feel bad for her after build-up with Eyestone, but injuries happen...
Listen to the podcast. Deena acknowledges that. Her point is Keira knew that before the race but was still saying she was in PR shape which she obviously wasn’t.
exactly. do an entire build up, come in tapered and suffer an acute foot injury in the first six - 8 miles? At marathon pace? Please.
Emma usually does 20+ post recaps of her big races on Instagram. It’s sad that she’s going to do that for this race. What is there to say? She’s all talk. Lost a lot of respect for her.
Really? D'Amato had some sort of foot injury and she dropped rather than potentially do serious damage. I feel bad for her after build-up with Eyestone, but injuries happen...
Why on earth she switched coaches. We all knew it would not end well. No logic at all
Deena Kastor dropped out of the Olympic marathon with a broken foot. Did she tell the press before the marathon started that she had a problem with her foot?
I recall her getting a Olympic medal in 2004 (Athens). Of course like Molly Seidel (also an Olympic medalist, who was treated like a fluke, she was castigated by LR men for "not going for the win". There is no pleasing you Americans. Perhaps it is just the misogynist mindset that predominates this board.
Listen to the podcast. Deena acknowledges that. Her point is Keira knew that before the race but was still saying she was in PR shape which she obviously wasn’t.
Other than the foot injury she was in condition for a PR. That is what she meant to say.
Deena Kastor dropped out of the Olympic marathon with a broken foot. Did she tell the press before the marathon started that she had a problem with her foot?
She allegedly broke her foot during the Olympic marathon, citing it was due to a vitamin D deficiency after wearing a lot of clothes in training in order to get heat adjusted.
Years ago I asked a guy at Chicago the same thing. Race day did not go to plan. Post race, durning the press confrence he has a cold. I was on a freelance press pass. I was not about to rock the boat and ask why he failed to mention that the night before.
There are contracts and a lot of money on the line for someone to go run. I am not the least bit surprised D'Amato response.
The logic in talking big may be something like "My appearance fee is predicated in large part on promotiing the race / generating interest. Other than stats-drunk LetsRun nerds, all anyone in interested in is records. Therefore, to get paid big, I need to talk big."
What a terrible take on this.
99% of the participants don't know what the AR for the marathon is or who the AR holder is. NO ONE except nerds on this forum care about records. No one.
Talking about breaking the AR while your injured before a race has become the MO for Bates and D'Amato.
When you talk big routinely and then don't back it up (or worse drop out of the race) it negatively hurts your brand.
She allegedly broke her foot during the Olympic marathon, citing it was due to a vitamin D deficiency after wearing a lot of clothes in training in order to get heat adjusted.
If this is true, then I don't know whether to laugh or cry.
exactly. do an entire build up, come in tapered and suffer an acute foot injury in the first six - 8 miles? At marathon pace? Please.
I've personally started a distance race being well prepared and feeling perfectly fine, and developing a painful stress fracture in my foot by six miles in. Many highly trained runners experience a niggle here or there in training that comes and goes that they would consider too minor to call an injury. It is possible for this sorr of thing to blow up on you suddenly. Remember, Keira has a history of a significant foot problem that required surgical correction. The surgery allowed her to return to competitive running, but didn't make her foot "as good as new".
Q: How's your foot? My doctor said I healed beautifully, and it's because I did everything right -- from taking a lot of time off to talking to bone healers to acupuncture to herbal mashes on the top of my foot. Before the Olympics, I felt a little soreness but I never mentioned it because it was so minor. On race day, it felt great, but then at about 21/2 miles, it felt tight for maybe a minute and then it snapped. It was like a popsicle stick snapping and splintering -- that's exactly what it sounded like. The doctor said it was more of a trauma fracture, not a stress fracture, a complete break and splintering of my third metatarsal. Q: Was it difficult to have such a long layoff? I love taking breaks after marathons; usually I take a month off then come back slowly. But to not be able to do anything was so debilitating. One of the highlights of my day is taking my dog, Aspen, for a walk, and I couldn't even do that. But it was all the little things you can do when you're healthy that you take for granted. I had to wear a backpack around to carry my books upstairs to read, drink out of a water bottle all the time because I couldn't carry a glass around. Everything took so much thought. Q: How did your body react? In the past when I took a break I'd at least go hike in the country or ride my bike to the store, at least stay active even if it wasn't formal training. To not be able to do anything for such a long time is huge, physically and mentally. The worst part of the time off was what was going on histochemically in my body. You train for the marathon and then you taper to store up all this energy, and on race day I was never able to use up that energy I had stored, so it was in me, like a charged battery. I felt this spin or pulse inside that just wouldn't go away. Q: How will you benefit from the time off? I was told I could do single leg spinning on a bike, but if my bone is breaking in my foot I knew I clearly needed a rest from the sport. I've been overexerting myself since I was 11. I've always been goal-focused and striving for something, and I took this as an opportunity and a clear sign I need to back off. I feel like the rest has me really hungry to get back out there again. Q: Did a Vitamin D deficiency lead to the injury? A test showed I had a great deal of calcium in my bloodstream, but without enough Vitamin D I couldn't utilize it. Something I've prided myself on is taking care of my skin because of repeated bouts of skin cancer -- always wearing hats, long sleeve shirts, lots of sunscreen -- but I guess it's something I need to balance. Maybe when I do my 20-minute warm-up I won't wear sunscreen and wait to put it on with my racing flats on to do my workout. And now I'm taking a calcium supplement called "Bone Up" and eating a lot more green vegetables. Q: So now that you're back running, what's your plan? My plan is to do a slow buildup, mostly base aerobic work, probably supplementing it with underwater treadmill running. I'll probably start with more tempos and fartleks as part of a longer run, and then long, slower intervals. I'm going to have a racing plan because as soon as I see a race, I'm going to want to do it. If I'm ready, I'd definitely like to do a spring marathon, but if not I'll just race shorter stuff on the roads and get ready for a fall marathon.
She later learned that her abnormally elevated blood-calcium levels were related to another underlying condition.
Élite athletes should be on top of all this stuff. A vitamin D deficiency can affect so many areas of the body. I’m not an elite athlete and I get my vitamin D checked.
I just wish Emma Bates had-
1) Not claimed to be in the shape she said she was. This raises expectations. 2) Been honest and just said ‘ I had a bad day out there and couldn’t execute it the way I wanted. Off to figure out what went wrong’ etc.
Instead she claims to have had an amazing build up and is in 2.17/2.18 shape and then runs 6/7 mins slower than that. And blames a new issue that she’s never mentioned.
I like her, she’s a good runner. But she had a significant time off with injury. Maybe she can’t expect to ever be in that kind of shape.
We have a lot of American (and British) women runners all hovering around the 2.25-2.22 mark at the moment. They’re the best in the country. We occasionally get a rare performance when everything goes right on the day and they drop to sub 2.20 (see Emily Sisson). But it’s rarely replicated. This implies we’re around the ceiling of what these women can do. It all depends on the day.
The marathon is unpredictable Calling out someone in a race that long and grueling is stupid! If you are not having your day there isn't a damn thing you can do about it. Every great runner from Rogers and Shorter to Salazar to Decastella , whomever have crashed and burned in this race. Well everyone except drug induced Kenyans that is!