We've merged three threads on Jakob's post-race comments into 1. One other thread was entitled, "Jakob: "Competing with a cold: probably not the best medicine. 🤔 Not showing up: not an option, unless half dead." The third thread was titled, "Jakob criticizes Hocker’s cross training- “that’s very strange”.
He was not ill when he lost to Wightman in Eugene, nor when he finished 4th in Paris, and didn’t claim to be in either case. Keep pushing that narrative though.
Didn’t listen to the clip but if we’re acting like hocker doing some cycling is the secret to his success it is silly. It’s not a all.
it’s either some additional low stress training or it’s erroneously being touted as his training secret to cover up the real secret they don’t want you to consider
If you watch the clip, Jakob makes this exact point. OP quoted him out of context trying to create controversy where it doesn’t exist. Jakob didn’t attack/criticize Hocker at all.
He was not ill when he lost to Wightman in Eugene, nor when he finished 4th in Paris, and didn’t claim to be in either case. Keep pushing that narrative though.
Jakob has competed 13 times this year. In his best five races he: ran the fastest 1500 in the last 15 years, won a euro gold, won another euro gold, dominated the Olympic 5000, and obliterated a 3000m record that hadn’t been sniffed in nearly 30 years. In his worst three races, he ran a 3:45 mile for second, broke the Olympic record in the 1500 (placing 4th), and he got 2nd today, beating the most recent Olympic and World Champions while sick. And people are treating this like he’s having a bad year.
lmao bro beat Nuguse by three seconds earlier this season. Three. Three. One more time? Three. Bro was sick, cope. Great race nuguse got the best of him.
lmao bro beat Nuguse by three seconds earlier this season. Three. Three. One more time? Three. Bro was sick, cope. Great race nuguse got the best of him.
Jakob wasn’t 100% in Zürich, clearly. If the season ended today, I would go: 1. Ingebrigtsen 2. Hocker 3. Nuguse 4. Kerr in Track and Field News-style year-end rankings. But Jakob’s margin over Nuguse in Monaco was actually closer to 2 seconds, no matter how many times you write three. And I think Nuguse made up a lot of that deficit with his 3:27.80 in Paris.
"It's a bit... thrilling. Of course, that says a lot about the race it will be. It's not just about running under 3.30. At least not against people who have had a perfect run-up with altitude training and no other competitions," said Ingebrigtsen.
He also raved about his 3:29 run even though he loss.
"It's a bit ridiculous. Running under 3.30 was a magic limit for a long time. To do it time after time is incredibly nice," said Jakob Ingebrigtsen to NRK.
"It's a bit... thrilling. Of course, that says a lot about the race it will be. It's not just about running under 3.30. At least not against people who have had a perfect run-up with altitude training and no other competitions," said Ingebrigtsen.
He also raved about his 3:29 run even though he loss.
"It's a bit ridiculous. Running under 3.30 was a magic limit for a long time. To do it time after time is incredibly nice," said Jakob Ingebrigtsen to NRK.
lmao bro beat Nuguse by three seconds earlier this season. Three. Three. One more time? Three. Bro was sick, cope. Great race nuguse got the best of him.
Jakob wasn’t 100% in Zürich, clearly. If the season ended today, I would go: 1. Ingebrigtsen 2. Hocker 3. Nuguse 4. Kerr in Track and Field News-style year-end rankings. But Jakob’s margin over Nuguse in Monaco was actually closer to 2 seconds, no matter how many times you write three. And I think Nuguse made up a lot of that deficit with his 3:27.80 in Paris.
Kerr would be 3 funnily enough if he just raced in London or Monaco I think. But sitting on one race means I agree you have to drop him to 4.
In this link below Jakob said he woke up feeling surprisingly good, better than he expected and better than before his plane flight. He thinks he'll recover in the next few days and do well in Brussels.
Mostly he was irritated with the pacers, saying at one point he had to yell at them.
The highlight of the link is definitely the Markus Rooth video. I can't believe the telecast didn't show that long jump
People rip Jakob for making excuses, but he certainly didn't look like himself on the last lap tonight in Zurich and I appreciate him telling us he's sick when he is sick. I believe him when he said he was sick in Budapest and I believe him now, but it doesn't change the fact that he was beaten in those races.
I'm glad Ingebrigtsen showed up and am glad he gave it a go even if he was not fully recovered. Only complaint: you can't say "first and foremost: a great performance by Nuguse" when it's actually the third thing you mention. =)
I also found Nuguse's response interesting: "Looking forward to go at it for real in Brussels 🙌🏾"
What sort of rubbish reporting is this when everyone who watched live heard the commentator say before the race that he was sick, and been feeling off since the 3,000m...or did you not pay attention in class?
He could have DNS-ed and then you would probably say the same crap
OK, I'm not a fan of his consistent arrogance, but by no means am I a Jakob-hater: I admire his consistent willingness to turn up and race, like McSweyn I enjoy how he rarely lets a 1500 be slow and is never afraid to front-run, and I respect what he has done both for the event, but also his influence on training methods for seemingly most pro's and club runners nowadays (not saying he invented double-T ofc). That being said...
These excuses have to stop. The injury over the winter was obviously serious and he's done very well to come back from that + run a 3:45 mile so soon after, but outside of that, every time he gets beaten there is some underlying excuse, and it's moved from reactionary comments to now preemptively before the race. And I think this has done exactly as intended because I listened to the LR post-race recap last night and Rojo and Jon both weren't objective in their assessment of this race, because they'd heard before it that he had been somewhat ill, so within the first 300m had written off the race as 'yeah but he's ill'.
Covid, Illness, Covid, infection. I cant even be bothered to go back and find all the different excuses but there has been one for every single loss.
Sometimes your legs just aren't there on the day, sometimes you mess your taper, sometime others are just better at peaking for a single event, but Jakob cant accept that, or the fact that anyone else could beat him fairly, every time has to be caveated by him being afflicted by something, or taking shots that he led them for most the race. Do you know how many of Jakob's competitors turn up to events when they've been ill or carrying a niggle? No, because they don't immediately run to the press room to tell everyone to sooth their own ego.
Pre-race press conference, post-race interview(s), IG post the same night, all making sure everyone knows that this result doesnt count because he was ill. Do you know who else was ill the other week? NUGUSE.
This feels like Eliud after he lost London or Boston. He's undoubtedly one of the best athletes and 8-9x/10 will win the race, but he is not invincible, and just as we saw Eliud falter in some races and a new 2:00 kid appear on the scene, Jakob is not some undisputed and infallible racer, but he can't seem to process that so he puts an asterisk next to any loss. This is some real freshman behaviour and I'm bored of it because you hear endlessly the same childish attitude from hobbyjoggers at your local race who have to come up with some convoluted reason why they weren't amazing that day.
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