Kerr is a great runner. I'd bet he can run 7:21 like Aregawi. Breaking 7:17.5 seems impossible for anyone except Ingebrigtsen.
Kerr ran 7:25 equivalent after months of preparation for a race where Fisher ended up towing him almost the entire way. If he tried to go with the lead pack on Sunday he would’ve blown up worse than Kejelcha did. The dude is not running 7:21.
Kerr is NOT running 7:17. IF you really wanted a debate though, you could ask whether Kerr could beat Jakob in a championship 3000m. The answer of course is yes, but would it be Jakob winning 7 or 8 times out of 10? I do not know.
I'm a Brit and was very confident Kerr would bear Ingebrigtsen in the Oly 15 but I just don't see him doing it over 3k, even in championship conditions.
I think Kerr is now the better unpaced racer over a mile for reasons people have explained a million times over but Jakob would just run away from him in a 3k. I think Kerr would struggle with the likes of Aregawi and Yomif as well.
He ran a 2miles in 8:00 indoors which had a lot of tight turns. Let's assume that slowed him down 0.5s/lap. That would be 8 seconds which put him at 7:52 outdoors which is equqevenit to a 7:16 3k. The IAAF equivalent table also has him at 7:53 outdoors, which is in accordance with my theory.
Kerr is NOT running 7:17. IF you really wanted a debate though, you could ask whether Kerr could beat Jakob in a championship 3000m. The answer of course is yes, but would it be Jakob winning 7 or 8 times out of 10? I do not know.
I'm a Brit and was very confident Kerr would bear Ingebrigtsen in the Oly 15 but I just don't see him doing it over 3k, even in championship conditions.
I think Kerr is now the better unpaced racer over a mile for reasons people have explained a million times over but Jakob would just run away from him in a 3k. I think Kerr would struggle with the likes of Aregawi and Yomif as well.
A 2k would be more competetive.
Yes you’re probably right but I am leaving open the possibility that if they raced 10 times that Kerr could draft off Jakob and pull it out a couple times. Leading is not so easy, but if Jakob is 5-7 seconds faster in a 3000m, leading is likely to lead to him pulling away most of the time. Jakob probably only runs 7:21 without a pacer. So Kerr could probably hang for a long time and If Jakob was slightly off, all bets are off.
He ran a 2miles in 8:00 indoors which had a lot of tight turns. Let's assume that slowed him down 0.5s/lap. That would be 8 seconds which put him at 7:52 outdoors which is equqevenit to a 7:16 3k. The IAAF equivalent table also has him at 7:53 outdoors, which is in accordance with my theory.
He ran a 2miles in 8:00 indoors which had a lot of tight turns. Let's assume that slowed him down 0.5s/lap. That would be 8 seconds which put him at 7:52 outdoors which is equqevenit to a 7:16 3k. The IAAF equivalent table also has him at 7:53 outdoors, which is in accordance with my theory.
I cant tell you know many frigign D1 run nerds I know ran like 4:03 at boson on that FRIGGIN trampoline BOUNCE TRACK and say they have a 4;03 PR. They know its BULLSH1T, and they refused to admit it.
He ran a 2miles in 8:00 indoors which had a lot of tight turns. Let's assume that slowed him down 0.5s/lap. That would be 8 seconds which put him at 7:52 outdoors which is equqevenit to a 7:16 3k. The IAAF equivalent table also has him at 7:53 outdoors, which is in accordance with my theory.
There's a reason why all of those milers that run those fast times at BU and UW can't replicate them outdoors...those banked tracks are faster than outdoor tracks.
This and post above about converting via points illustrates why World Athletics need to completely overhaul the tables for short track. The are scoring the 5ks run at BU like they were run on a 11-lap-to a mile wooden track from 1965.
i used to love running especially back when people didn't make up imaginary things and act like they were the truth. thats what this sport has turned in to.
There's a reason why all of those milers that run those fast times at BU and UW can't replicate them outdoors...those banked tracks are faster than outdoor tracks.
I found a cross section of the tracks at BU and The Armory:
Indeed, Almgren mentioned that in a podcast recently. You dont really run faster outdoors for 3000m.
I agree, my best time across all flat events was my indoor 3k (8:37), outdoor PRs of 1:59, 4:02, 9:19, 14:59 and I think 8:52 for 3k (had 8:48 time trial though). Pretty sure the indoor 3k would be the “best” performance objectively, the lack of wind offsets any negligible advantage of fewer turns.
He ran a 2miles in 8:00 indoors which had a lot of tight turns. Let's assume that slowed him down 0.5s/lap. That would be 8 seconds which put him at 7:52 outdoors which is equqevenit to a 7:16 3k. The IAAF equivalent table also has him at 7:53 outdoors, which is in accordance with my theory.
If Aregawi can run 7:21.2, then I say yes.
3000m is shorter than 2 miles, so you would expect Kerr to be better over 3000m than 2 miles.
Kerr ran 7:25 equivalent after months of preparation for a race where Fisher ended up towing him almost the entire way. If he tried to go with the lead pack on Sunday he would’ve blown up worse than Kejelcha did. The dude is not running 7:21.
I agree that I don't think that race was well set up for Kerr because so much of the field let the leading group go. Could he probably go a little under 7:25? Sure, but something more like 2:29/4:58-9 and then bang it home than hanging on for dear life as Jakob goes for it.
Kerr is NOT running 7:17. IF you really wanted a debate though, you could ask whether Kerr could beat Jakob in a championship 3000m. The answer of course is yes, but would it be Jakob winning 7 or 8 times out of 10? I do not know.
I am very surprised that you people either think Kerr can run 7:17 or that you think Kerr could never beat Jakob in a 3000m race without rabbits. Either way you are mental midgets.
3000m is shorter than 2 miles, so you would expect Kerr to be better over 3000m than 2 miles.
He was also obviously not in 3:27 shape indoor.
Aregawi ran 12:40 closing in 55 from the front to drop Cheptegei, you think Kerr could touch that? Kejelcha is a 3:47 indoor / 12:40 / 26:30 / 57:40 guy and he still died trying to go with Jakob, yet you think he could hang at that pace, that's funny.
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