AUG20 wrote:
Hey Noah -
Track fans on this site: Complain about the sport’s lack of popularity and low meet attendance in the US
Also track fans on this site when an Olympic and world champion from the US goes on a well-known podcast to try to promote the sport: “You talk too much!”
The 4x4 relay can at least get the stick around, so 200/400/4x4 is probably better for maximizing his medal count.
AUG20 wrote:
He realized the 100m WR he said he will break is out of reach. Probably thinks the 200 WR might also out 9f reach so he will say this.
That's what is going on. They see that the greatest attention and praise is reserved for athletes who win gold while setting the world record, like Duplantis and McLaughlin.
Lyles was undoubtedly surprised that his 100 gold had already been surpassed by spotlight on others
2-3 years, maybe...but thats 2-3 YEARS. Noah is the reigning world and olympic champion over the 100. It's safe to say at least next season he will be optimizing his training for the 100/200 again, for which he will be a top contender. Noah seems to me the kinda guy as where he wins, he stays. I can't see him seriously switching to the 400 until his reign of terror in the 1/2 is over, and I don't see that happening at least until he's 30? (at which that point it gets icy). Yes, MJ was 31, and Norwood is 32? with their personal bests, but if he's running 43.02 (he's not), he'll need 2-3 seasons of ACTUAL 400 racing under his belt, which by then he'll be 32-33.
I think he said that if he were to train for it, that would be his goal. I wouldn’t expect him to say his goal is 43.5 or something. He also never said he was going to train for it.
100m - 0.3%
200m - 15%
400m - 5%
I think he should go for it. He'll take some losses early and will have to learn but if he gets successful at it I'm sure Kerley will move up to challenge him.
Gordie3 wrote:
He didn't say he CAN break it, he said he'd like to take a SHOT.
The dude is a far better 200M runner than 100M. He genuinely could have a chance, given his PR is 19.31 and there are several 400M athletes that run sub 44 and have slower 200M times than him.
Michael Johnson's PR was 19.32 as we all know, and he went on to run 43.18
I could absolutely see Noah Lyles running the quarter and honestly might even go as far as saying he'd be better in that event than the 100M. His top speed is unmatched.
Remember, Fred Kerley ran 43.6 back in the day but he still kicks ass as a 100M/200M guy. Michael Norman could too (once he gets his act together). There's no reason Lyles wouldn't be able to especially with how fast his 200M PR is.
Lyles and Fred have changed their body to concentrate on the 100m. Kerley can lo longer handle the turn at speed for the 200m. Lyles looks less fluid in his signature event and is miles from his 19.3 . Neither will change back because it is easier to be a 100m runner. Lyles needs to stop talking. Lost importantly, the jock sniffers and groupies need to stop listening.
AUG20 wrote:
He realized the 100m WR he said he will break is out of reach. Probably thinks the 200 WR might also out 9f reach so he will say this.
When he runs 1 or 2 and can't get that WR he will say he is going for the LJ WR and on and on
NL is tiresome
I kind of agree with this. It's always something, Some find it entertaining, I find it also tiresome..
400 WR will be broken soon, but not by Lyles.
Tebogo already holds 300m WR and 400 WR is his if he chooses to focus there.
His top speed is at least as good if not better, and he's much younger.
And watch his last 400m split in the Olympics - without even training for 400m
Don't we always speculate what someone could have run if they moved up? Isn't that what they're supposed to do to help extend their careers? I predict lyles takes a shot at the marathon world record in 20 years
Noahlylesplessestop wrote:
Citiusmag posted some interview with him. He’s serious folks. What do we think?
LRC note: The interview is from Shannon Sharpe's podcast and is embedded below. The 400m talk comes at the 38:30 mark.
According to Chris Chavez, here is what LYles said:
“Jereem Richards – he is a 19.80 200m runner. And he decided that he was going to focus more on the 400m this year. He was in that (Olympic) final. He got fourth with 43.78. New national record. I believe it’s in the top 10 all-time fastest times…My PR is 19.3 in the 200m. And I have some pretty good strength on me as well. I truly would like to take a shot at the world record if I decide to move to the 400m truly and give it my 100% for multiple years – yeah I’m going after the world record.”
– Sharpe reiterated that the world records in the 400m and 200m are 43.03 and 19.19, respectively.
“My brain understands it,” Lyles responded. “My body doesn’t know the difference. Why would my body think that’s a hard time? My body don’t know that that’s hard. If I keep telling it to get faster and faster, it’s going to try and adapt. It’s going to keep moving toward that time.”
HEre are more timestamps courtesy of messageboard poster McLovin.
- 1:10: Noah discusses his strategies and mindsets through the rounds of the 100 in Paris.
- 4:03: Noah dissects the 100m final.
- 6:10: Discussion on maintaining confidence even when falling behind in the 100.
- 7:50 Thoughts on Kishane Thompson
- 9:25: Handling pressure
- 11:30: Covid and the 200; Noah says he thought he was in shape to break the world record in the 200 before he got covid.
- 16:00: The differences between running the 100 and 200
- 17:45: Noah comments on his energy running the rounds of the 200 and why he came out for the 200 final the way he did
- 18:20: Noah’s 200 lane preference (6 or 7)
- 20:00: More on covid
- 22:52: Being the villain vs being the hero (he sees himself as the anti-hero)
- 25:52: The NBA and “world champions”, and the difference in how US Olympians are treated compared to those in other countries
- 31:11: Lack of exposure for the sport of track & field and the difficulty for fans to follow it (Noah isn’t happy about the Diamond League going to Flo Track)
- 33:30: Noah’s thoughts on Michael Johnson’s Grand Slam Track league (he says he’s waiting to hear if there will be a TV provider before he decides if he’s going to join)
- 35:27: the 4x100; interesting thoughts from Noah on the politics that goes into athlete/order selection; he believes they should have either gone with the same lineup from the prelim or put Kenny on the anchor leg
- 38:30: his potential in the 400; he would like to take a shot at the 400 world record if he ever switches to that event
- 40:25: what happens if he doesn’t win the 200 gold in LA and his goals from now until then
43:30: Anthony Edwards’ shoe release and Noah’s ongoing desire to have his own shoe, including feeling unheard by52:50: racing Chad Johnson and Tyreek Hill54:36: Noah says he’s done for this year.
No one is stopping him. In 2025 he can do it (or not).
Noahlylesplessestop wrote:
Citiusmag posted some interview with him. He’s serious folks. What do we think?
LRC note: The interview is from Shannon Sharpe's podcast and is embedded below. The 400m talk comes at the 38:30 mark.
According to Chris Chavez, here is what LYles said:
“Jereem Richards – he is a 19.80 200m runner. And he decided that he was going to focus more on the 400m this year. He was in that (Olympic) final. He got fourth with 43.78. New national record. I believe it’s in the top 10 all-time fastest times…My PR is 19.3 in the 200m. And I have some pretty good strength on me as well. I truly would like to take a shot at the world record if I decide to move to the 400m truly and give it my 100% for multiple years – yeah I’m going after the world record.”
– Sharpe reiterated that the world records in the 400m and 200m are 43.03 and 19.19, respectively.
“My brain understands it,” Lyles responded. “My body doesn’t know the difference. Why would my body think that’s a hard time? My body don’t know that that’s hard. If I keep telling it to get faster and faster, it’s going to try and adapt. It’s going to keep moving toward that time.”
HEre are more timestamps courtesy of messageboard poster McLovin.
- 1:10: Noah discusses his strategies and mindsets through the rounds of the 100 in Paris.
- 4:03: Noah dissects the 100m final.
- 6:10: Discussion on maintaining confidence even when falling behind in the 100.
- 7:50 Thoughts on Kishane Thompson
- 9:25: Handling pressure
- 11:30: Covid and the 200; Noah says he thought he was in shape to break the world record in the 200 before he got covid.
- 16:00: The differences between running the 100 and 200
- 17:45: Noah comments on his energy running the rounds of the 200 and why he came out for the 200 final the way he did
- 18:20: Noah’s 200 lane preference (6 or 7)
- 20:00: More on covid
- 22:52: Being the villain vs being the hero (he sees himself as the anti-hero)
- 25:52: The NBA and “world champions”, and the difference in how US Olympians are treated compared to those in other countries
- 31:11: Lack of exposure for the sport of track & field and the difficulty for fans to follow it (Noah isn’t happy about the Diamond League going to Flo Track)
- 33:30: Noah’s thoughts on Michael Johnson’s Grand Slam Track league (he says he’s waiting to hear if there will be a TV provider before he decides if he’s going to join)
- 35:27: the 4x100; interesting thoughts from Noah on the politics that goes into athlete/order selection; he believes they should have either gone with the same lineup from the prelim or put Kenny on the anchor leg
- 38:30: his potential in the 400; he would like to take a shot at the 400 world record if he ever switches to that event
- 40:25: what happens if he doesn’t win the 200 gold in LA and his goals from now until then
43:30: Anthony Edwards’ shoe release and Noah’s ongoing desire to have his own shoe, including feeling unheard by52:50: racing Chad Johnson and Tyreek Hill54:36: Noah says he’s done for this year.
Why hasn't he told his body to run 9.57 yet?
Next he will say he can break 1:40 in the 800 and 3:25 in the 1500. His mouth never takes time off
Need more athletes with Lyle’s mentality. I hope Sidney considers doing other events. I hope Mu considers doing other events. I even hope little Quincy in time considers the 800 after he dominates the 400 one day. Go outside your comfort zone, be an athlete and give the people something to see and talk about. It works. Need more of it.
misterchung wrote:
2-3 years, maybe...but thats 2-3 YEARS. Noah is the reigning world and olympic champion over the 100. It's safe to say at least next season he will be optimizing his training for the 100/200 again, for which he will be a top contender. Noah seems to me the kinda guy as where he wins, he stays. I can't see him seriously switching to the 400 until his reign of terror in the 1/2 is over, and I don't see that happening at least until he's 30? (at which that point it gets icy). Yes, MJ was 31, and Norwood is 32? with their personal bests, but if he's running 43.02 (he's not), he'll need 2-3 seasons of ACTUAL 400 racing under his belt, which by then he'll be 32-33.
Yeah that is the problem. No way he leaves the 200 til after LA and odds are he goes 100/200 instead of 200/400. And now we are talking about a past his prime dude.
Noah is exactly the type of guy we want doing this. He is clearly better at 200 than 100. Can he stretch it out to run 43? Who knows but it will be close.
Feels like if I was his brother I would be all in on the 400. But maybe that doesn’t work in the current training situation.
Bolt ran 45.3 in high school.
All the speculation is out the window if Lyles decides to take the Jamaican path to glory one year. Lyles on the Jamaican juice would definitely challenge the 100m record and would smash the 200m record.
The meltdown that would happen in Jamaica would surpass Pompeii.
misterchung wrote:
2-3 years, maybe...but thats 2-3 YEARS. Noah is the reigning world and olympic champion over the 100. It's safe to say at least next season he will be optimizing his training for the 100/200 again, for which he will be a top contender. Noah seems to me the kinda guy as where he wins, he stays. I can't see him seriously switching to the 400 until his reign of terror in the 1/2 is over, and I don't see that happening at least until he's 30? (at which that point it gets icy). Yes, MJ was 31, and Norwood is 32? with their personal bests, but if he's running 43.02 (he's not), he'll need 2-3 seasons of ACTUAL 400 racing under his belt, which by then he'll be 32-33.
Lyles is 27 brah. By LA28 he'll be 31. He's not THAT old.
Kerley is even older, and I don't see him retiring anytime soon