Yes, and he likely can continue winning 5ks like this through 2028, and maybe beyond. His 1500m speed + his training being geared towards longer distances have given him an insane aerobic engine. This combination is so lethal that he could be off and still win. Gebrhiwet got at least a 10m lead on Jakob when he was still boxed in but there was no doubt in my mind that he was going to be able to chase Gebrhiwet down. It was almost comical how easy he made that last 500. The 5k is HIS event and he doesn’t even try. That’s how good he is.
He will win every 5k final until 2032, 9 GOLD MEDALS, HE IS THE GOAT
This shows how stupid most of you are. You people are world class morons. There is absolutely no chance that Jakob will win every global championship until 2032. Jakob is already having injury issues and he will not be good enough to even win in 2028.
farah has always been overrated in my book , he came along in a time when Bekele and Ethiopia had begun their decline and the Kenyans were as well and at a time the US was still kinda just meh still trying to find their place they’ve found in todays era.
and the fact Mo was Just a beyond average runner, then goes to Salazar and becomes elite just never made sense… well it makes sense.. but you know…
Mo didn't come along when Bekele had begun his decline. He came along right during the same era as Bekele (they're nearly the same age) but simply wasn't anything more than a mid-packer at the global level for nearly his entire twenties. His unprecedented late-career improvement after years of getting blown out on the global stage is without doubt one of the most suspicious developments in track history.
To me, the more interesting comparison would be how Jakob stacks up against prime-era Bekele in a 5k final.
Mo was a world class 1500m runner and not that much slower than Jakob (especially when factoring in bicarb and super shoes). He was also great at shifting gears.
Im a huge Jakob fan and a Mo hater, but I think Jakob would need to make it a sub 12:50 race while ratcheting the pace down the last 1k to be clear of Mo, otherwise it’s a coin flip.
Does Jakob get to have testosterone massages and 'Vitamin C' injections from Salazar? Training camps in remote Ethiopia with Jama Aden that never happened although posted on Instagram? Faulty doorbells?
I didn’t pose the question, I just answered it as asked. Plus I sad I was a Mo hater (for stated reasons)
Jakob has earned a spot at the table with Bekele and Mo as one of the greatest championship 5k runners of all time. He is definitely better than Mo at this point, not sure about Bekele.
Obviously Farah was great but I don't ever recall him completely dominating fields over the final lap the way Jakob does. Jakob absolutely embarrassed the fields at 2022 Worlds and 2024 Olympics. 2023 was not as dominant but he was sick and still outkicked doper Mo Katir. Seems like Farah was always pushed to the line and there was always the chance of someone coming back at him. When Jakob takes the lead, we all know it's over.
I think Jakob is the greatest championship 5k runner ever. Farah was great no doubt, but Jakobs margin of victory when healthy is comical.
El g in super shoes would have beaten him in the Paris 5k
Mo was a world class 1500m runner and not that much slower than Jakob (especially when factoring in bicarb and super shoes). He was also great at shifting gears.
Im a huge Jakob fan and a Mo hater, but I think Jakob would need to make it a sub 12:50 race while ratcheting the pace down the last 1k to be clear of Mo, otherwise it’s a coin flip.
Does Jakob get to have testosterone massages and 'Vitamin C' injections from Salazar? Training camps in remote Ethiopia with Jama Aden that never happened although posted on Instagram? Faulty doorbells?
Something tells me Jakob is doing a lot more than Mo
I think Jakob is the greatest championship 5k runner ever. Farah was great no doubt, but Jakobs margin of victory when healthy is comical.
Yes, but that doesn’t mean he automatically is a 12.35 runner -he has to do it, and should hurry up. -What if he gets a fatal injury -ten years will pass and people will say he maybe had a 12.45 in him, and pretty much had the same profile as Mo…. (The latter might even be true, but we don’t know how fast he -Mo-could have run, and most are saying not that fast)…
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Id take prime Mo in a champ race. He ran 3:28 at 30 when he didn't ever run 1500s. He closed the 2012 5k in 52.x. not sure ingebritsen is doing that
Yes Mo Farah after he suspiciously became really good was a better championship racer than Jakob. Jakob is a much better time trialer who is so good he can also win some championships.
Id take prime Mo in a champ race. He ran 3:28 at 30 when he didn't ever run 1500s. He closed the 2012 5k in 52.x. not sure ingebritsen is doing that
Yes Mo Farah after he suspiciously became really good was a better championship racer than Jakob. Jakob is a much better time trialer who is so good he can also win some championships.
In the 5k? Jakob has raced three global finals (not to mention all the Euros) and has three gold medals, how many do you expect him to have from those three competitions, 19? Farah had a 6th and 7th in WC finals and bombed out in the heats in Beijing, all when he was older than Jakob.
What did the competition look like for Mo Farah compared to Jakob? I still think Jakob wins the 5,000m but without Cheptegei, Kiplimo or Kejelcha, the field was definitely weaker.
With super shoes and bicarb, I think Farah vs. Jakob would be a pretty good battle. I wonder if it would play out similarly to the 1500m, where Jakob would feel more pressure to lead knowing he has a 3:28 man with a very good kick in the field. With super shoes and bicarb, Mo’s 3:28 could be a little faster, too. That’s a much different scenario than the 5,000m at this Olympics where Jakob was significantly better than everybody else over 1500m.
Not sure why this is downvoted so much. the super shoes are probably worth 3 seconds in the 1500m. Jakob is barely a sub 3:30 1500m runner without super shoes. Mo had 'real' 3:28 speed. Or alternatively, Mo had sub 3:26 speed in the super shoe era. Give Mo super shoes in his prime and Jakob's not beating him at 5000m.... maybe not even at 1500m.
Mo was a master tactician who would leave something for the final 100m, which is why his races didn't appear as dominant as they really were. A lot of people will comment on the final 400m or maybe the final 200m. Rarely tracked is the final 100m but Mo would often times win by 1 to 2 seconds in the final 100m.
Then there was that time Caleb Ndiku tried in Beijing 2015 to win from 800m out and Mo ran a 1:48 final 800m to hunt him down (albeit in a slower race).
Downvote it if you want... but you know it's true. Mo > Jakob at 5000m.
The thing to keep in mind is that usually Farah was doubling back from running the 10,000, which takes a lot out of you. Running a 1,500 just isn't the same thing. Impossible to compare. The event has changed since Farah's heyday.
Yes Mo Farah after he suspiciously became really good was a better championship racer than Jakob. Jakob is a much better time trialer who is so good he can also win some championships.
In the 5k? Jakob has raced three global finals (not to mention all the Euros) and has three gold medals, how many do you expect him to have from those three competitions, 19? Farah had a 6th and 7th in WC finals and bombed out in the heats in Beijing, all when he was older than Jakob.
You cannot read? Read my post slowly. And again And again.
The thing to keep in mind is that usually Farah was doubling back from running the 10,000, which takes a lot out of you. Running a 1,500 just isn't the same thing. Impossible to compare. The event has changed since Farah's heyday.
I would say running three rounds of a 1500 vs a single tactical 10k is comparable in terms of how much they would deplete you for the 5k in the same championship.
Mo was a world class 1500m runner and not that much slower than Jakob (especially when factoring in bicarb and super shoes). He was also great at shifting gears.
Im a huge Jakob fan and a Mo hater, but I think Jakob would need to make it a sub 12:50 race while ratcheting the pace down the last 1k to be clear of Mo, otherwise it’s a coin flip.
I do agree Mo is underrated here. He's certainly one of the best championship runners in the 5k/10k. If they're facing each other, I would say it would be 7:3(or maybe 8:2), Jakob to Mo. Mo would take Katir's role there.
You must have missed the end of Mo’s career when he would take the lead with 1k to go a just simply out run the field. With super shoes and bicarbonate advances I think Mo would be competitive with Jakob. I’d say either would beat prime Bekele in a non-rabbited 5k as I just can’t think of how Bekele would beat them just like he couldn’t beat El G in either of his global 5k defeats to El G. Championship 5k running isn’t a time trial.
The thing to keep in mind is that usually Farah was doubling back from running the 10,000, which takes a lot out of you. Running a 1,500 just isn't the same thing. Impossible to compare. The event has changed since Farah's heyday.
I would say running three rounds of a 1500 vs a single tactical 10k is comparable in terms of how much they would deplete you for the 5k in the same championship.
We might want to bring Gebrselassie back into the conversation then. He ran 10,000m rounds
Mo was a world class 1500m runner and not that much slower than Jakob (especially when factoring in bicarb and super shoes). He was also great at shifting gears.
Im a huge Jakob fan and a Mo hater, but I think Jakob would need to make it a sub 12:50 race while ratcheting the pace down the last 1k to be clear of Mo, otherwise it’s a coin flip.
I do agree Mo is underrated here. He's certainly one of the best championship runners in the 5k/10k. If they're facing each other, I would say it would be 7:3(or maybe 8:2), Jakob to Mo. Mo would take Katir's role there.
He will win every 5k final until 2032, 9 GOLD MEDALS, HE IS THE GOAT
This shows how stupid most of you are. You people are world class morons. There is absolutely no chance that Jakob will win every global championship until 2032. Jakob is already having injury issues and he will not be good enough to even win in 2028.
*moran
The case you’ve presented with all your facts is impressive.