What's a good mile time for a fit 20-something male who's not a runner?

3:27

We talking aerobic fit?

Generally “fit”: I’d say 7:30-8

Most of the CrossFit instructors in my gym would be hard pressed to run that in a workout and i’d consider them much fitter than the ppl I ran with in d3

if you’re an avid biker/swimmer I’d say faster.

So, you are not a runner. Then you must be a walker. Walking a mile in 14 minutes would be good.

Sub 8 without training. With minimal training for a few weeks 6:30

My college roommate played for the school's tennis team. The dude ran 4:58 for 1600 off his tennis training. That's an athlete...

7min mile is pretty good for a non runner. Easily puts you in the top 10% of males in their 20s who don’t run.

It's also a guy who's relatively short (probably under 5' 8") and light. Am I correct?

I just don’t think that basketball players run pure mileage enough outside of scrimmages with a basketball for the top guys to know how to pace themselves well.

Back during my freshman year of high school we’d mostly do line sprints on the basketball court, tons of lifting and jump program, and then just full-court scrimmages.

We did a 1600m TT a couple times, but most of the guys would range in the 5:40-6:20 range, a couple in the 5:40-5:20 range, and then I would just chill for 3 laps and kick it in with a 5:15 or 5:10.

Some of my former “teamates” now play in the NBA, but I’d be surprised to see them break 5:00, mostly because of effort. For most of these guys in HS it was probably just feeling like it was to early in the morning and that they needed to conserve energy for the rest of the day. Still, I would say that the guys in the 5:20-5:40 range had good basketball stamina, and likely could have been up there with me if they went to XC practice in the afternoon.

So to answer your question, I think that a fit non-runner male in his 20s would run around 5:30.

I agree with your first sentence, but this is an absolute rubbish definition:

"Jogging is when the body is moving as much up & down as it is moving forward" has to be one of the strangest statements I have ever seen here.

Up and down as much as forward?? LOLOL.

Apparently the 50th percentile for high school 17 year olds in 1985 was 7:04. The 85th percentile was 6:06.

I ran that in gym class when I was 11 years old. He can do better.

No it doesn't.

There are no gold medals for the 1,500m +100kg category.

Also, Lebron isn't in his 20s (which is the premise of the original post) and I don't know who Victor Wembanyama is (I'm not American).

But I'll say that I'm impressed by LeBron's basketball ability; something that he is very, very, very good at. However, if he can can only run a 5:05 mile, then that's not very impressive (however, he obviously doesn't need to be able to run a good mile, given that basketball leans heavily towards power over endurance).

You have to discriminate at some point.

I've seen 12 year olds and guys that barely train - with all manner of body types - run much faster than 5:00 for the mile.

"Good" should be a word associated with being far above the ordinary.

Anyone commenting without know your size isn't going to give a helpful number.

If you are a big dude and you can run a 6:30 mile, I think that would be a good mile.
It you are 160 lbs and claim to be fit, I think something closer to 6:00 would be a good mile.
If you are 145 and play soccer or something, I might think a good time is sub 5:40.

Anyone saying faster than that for a non-runner isn't very good with numbers.

As a high school junior in 1992 who played on the baseball and basketball teams, the farthest I ever ran in one shot that year was the mile run in gym. I ran 6:06. I don’t know why I remember that.

Don't know, but Runner's World can prolly help ;)

Jokes aside if I non-runner told me they broke six I think I'd be impressed. Under 5:30 I'd probably try to talk them into training for a race or something.

Not a runner & not training or with some training? Feel like 8:00 untrained is good for a healthy 20 something. Agree with the 6:xx if you're doing a little bit of training/do some sort of endurance based work. Sub-7 >>> sub-6, sure, but whatever you can get out the door & do is fine. No need for gatekeeping.

My brother just runs for fun and fitness. He ran around 1830 5k and 90 mins for the half. I'd say those marks are good for someone not trying to optimize training and who doesn't care if they take days, weeks off when weather is bad, work is busy, etc.

Soccer players are many kinds. Some are running a lot during matches.

I ran 4:35 in the 1500m which equals sub 5 in the mile when I came almost directly from soccer in my early FIFTIES.

You are completely underestimating professional soccer players (and probably also professional boxers)!

I´m certain that the likes of Christano Ronaldo, Haaland and other well running soccer players with a bit of training could run well under 4:30 for the mile.

See my post above about running 4:35 in the 1500m in my early fifties. In the same period I was possibly a 17 minutes 5000m runner (ran 27:20 in a 7.500m coming through 5000m in just over 18).

And I was a bloody amateur veteran soccer player in my early fifties with 4 children and more than a full time job.