Italian 5000m Bronze.

my two pennies wrote:

PickleRick wrote:

Keep showing (not necessarily you, just there is always a poster) your ignorance by periodically claiming Battocletti has "never performed" when she's been on a consistent ascending trajectory for years and went sub 15 at least 3-4 years ago.

You just don't follow track, you probably follow american track. Maybe you know everything about Wisconsin ninth graders that have run sub 4:20 for a mile on a Tuesday. But then you watch an olympic final and you can say meaningful things about 3 athletes at best. Shame. Cope hard.

Okay, then let's do a quick comparison to American track. Alicia Monson would've had a HUGE performance if she was healthy and medaled in Paris. Would've been by far her best race ever, and arguably slightly suspicious.

She has raced Battocletti three times and is 3-0 against her. She has twice run faster than Battocletti's 5000 PB, six times run faster than her 3000 PB, and twice run faster than her 10000 PB. She ran one road 5k and ran 7 seconds faster than Battocletti's PB.

Her 3k PB is 16 seconds faster, her 5k 12 seconds, and her 10k 48 seconds faster. She is by every objective measure the far superior athlete. And it would've taken a MONSTROUS race for her to medal tonight. Acting like it was anywhere close to expected for Battocletti is insanely disingenuous.

my two pennies wrote:

PickleRick wrote:

Keep showing (not necessarily you, just there is always a poster) your ignorance by periodically claiming Battocletti has "never performed" when she's been on a consistent ascending trajectory for years and went sub 15 at least 3-4 years ago.

You just don't follow track, you probably follow american track. Maybe you know everything about Wisconsin ninth graders that have run sub 4:20 for a mile on a Tuesday. But then you watch an olympic final and you can say meaningful things about 3 athletes at best. Shame. Cope hard.

Okay, then let's do a quick comparison to American track. Alicia Monson would've had a HUGE performance if she was healthy and medaled in Paris. Would've been by far her best race ever, and arguably slightly suspicious.

She has raced Battocletti three times and is 3-0 against her. She has twice run faster than Battocletti's 5000 PB, six times run faster than her 3000 PB, and twice run faster than her 10000 PB. She ran one road 5k and ran 7 seconds faster than Battocletti's PB.

Her 3k PB is 16 seconds faster, her 5k 12 seconds, and her 10k 48 seconds faster. She is by every objective measure the far superior athlete. And it would've taken a MONSTROUS race for her to medal tonight. Acting like it was anywhere close to expected for Battocletti is insanely disingenuous.

Coach Timmons observations wrote:

my two pennies wrote:

Okay, then let's do a quick comparison to American track. Alicia Monson would've had a HUGE performance if she was healthy and medaled in Paris. Would've been by far her best race ever, and arguably slightly suspicious.

She has raced Battocletti three times and is 3-0 against her. She has twice run faster than Battocletti's 5000 PB, six times run faster than her 3000 PB, and twice run faster than her 10000 PB. She ran one road 5k and ran 7 seconds faster than Battocletti's PB.

Her 3k PB is 16 seconds faster, her 5k 12 seconds, and her 10k 48 seconds faster. She is by every objective measure the far superior athlete. And it would've taken a MONSTROUS race for her to medal tonight. Acting like it was anywhere close to expected for Battocletti is insanely disingenuous.

Monson does not possess the pure speed of Battocletti.

Battocletti closed out the European Champs 5000m in ~60seconds, but that was after sitting on Grovdal for most of the race, passing her in the last 100m. She probably could have gone faster. Astonishingly, Battocletti ran the last 100m in ~13sec!

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PickleRick wrote:

my two pennies wrote:

Okay, then let's do a quick comparison to American track. Alicia Monson would've had a HUGE performance if she was healthy and medaled in Paris. Would've been by far her best race ever, and arguably slightly suspicious.

She has raced Battocletti three times and is 3-0 against her. She has twice run faster than Battocletti's 5000 PB, six times run faster than her 3000 PB, and twice run faster than her 10000 PB. She ran one road 5k and ran 7 seconds faster than Battocletti's PB.

Her 3k PB is 16 seconds faster, her 5k 12 seconds, and her 10k 48 seconds faster. She is by every objective measure the far superior athlete. And it would've taken a MONSTROUS race for her to medal tonight. Acting like it was anywhere close to expected for Battocletti is insanely disingenuous.

And this whole thing would make sense in a perfect world where athletes are consistent. Do you know Gudaf Tsegay? She's not american but I'd assume so. You'd then know she has a thing called the world record in the 5000. Well, she ran 17 seconds slower than the winner today. So I guess the winner is some kind of alien right? Because if Battocletti cannot make up 12 seconds on Monson... You get the idea.

Just, come on. People are inconsistent. Battocletti slightly bettered her NR. That's it, independently of how slow others ran in this specific race. Just admit you're an angry nationalist.

my two pennies wrote:

PickleRick wrote:

And this whole thing would make sense in a perfect world where athletes are consistent. Do you know Gudaf Tsegay? She's not american but I'd assume so. You'd then know she has a thing called the world record in the 5000. Well, she ran 17 seconds slower than the winner today. So I guess the winner is some kind of alien right? Because if Battocletti cannot make up 12 seconds on Monson... You get the idea.

Just, come on. People are inconsistent. Battocletti slightly bettered her NR. That's it, independently of how slow others ran in this specific race. Just admit you're an angry nationalist.

Nationalist? What nation, do tell? Last I checked, there were no Americans anywhere close to contending in this race.

Battocletti slightly bettered her NR in the 5k, but this wasn't a paced Diamond League record attempt. More to the point, she absolutely shattered the 3k NR at the end of this race...she closed in 4:20 for the last 1600 for crying out loud. Massive underperformances happen all the time - to massively overperform like this is a clear sign to be suspicious.

The last time threads like these popped up, it was Katir. Before that, Naser. Before that, London (which on the women's side especially, was frankly embarrassing with the level of blatant doping). Every time it happens, there are people like you that are just willfully ignorant of the reality around you.