Can someone PLEASE hold a real HS nationals meet

seriously bent wrote:

Spoken like a true XC person - no reason why sprinters and jumpers - you know the other areas of Track and Field - need to stop competing for the summer (if there were meets). The weather is fine in many parts of the country still, just like in Europe.

But we have to kowtow to the distance people who run the sport (like Nike) who want to shut down meets, just so the distance people can get ready for Cross. Frankly for my event (and others) Cross has absolutely no relevance, but we are held hostage by it. HS coaches can't coach in the summer, College coaches as well - little wonder why kids choose to compete for summer clubs, then the HS coaches complain that their athletes are being stolen. It is why there is so little depth in Throws in this country, compared to rest of the world, and we are falling behind in many of the jumps as well these days.

We had a handful of kids try out for a National team (World U20) this week. Looked at the Canadian list for their U20 trials in a couple of weeks - dozens per event, and they have other meets as well.. This is a country 1/10th our size. Then people turn around and say that the pseudo HS championships (Brooks, Nike, NB, Adidas) are not true championships - geez, you think.?!. USATF is the organization that should be putting on a national meet, even for HS athletes, that would have meaning - would require registration - but then it takes the shoes companies out of the equation (as they should be). But the USATF is in bed with Nike (why the U20 meet was affiliated with the Nike meet), since the executive is generally corrupt. If they knew how to market the sport, there would be many other sponsors on board - they (or Max anyway) don't, just want to line their pockets with Nike money.

sprinter here wrote:

seriously bent wrote:

Spoken like a true XC person - no reason why sprinters and jumpers - you know the other areas of Track and Field - need to stop competing for the summer (if there were meets). The weather is fine in many parts of the country still, just like in Europe.

But we have to kowtow to the distance people who run the sport (like Nike) who want to shut down meets, just so the distance people can get ready for Cross. Frankly for my event (and others) Cross has absolutely no relevance, but we are held hostage by it. HS coaches can't coach in the summer, College coaches as well - little wonder why kids choose to compete for summer clubs, then the HS coaches complain that their athletes are being stolen. It is why there is so little depth in Throws in this country, compared to rest of the world, and we are falling behind in many of the jumps as well these days.

We had a handful of kids try out for a National team (World U20) this week. Looked at the Canadian list for their U20 trials in a couple of weeks - dozens per event, and they have other meets as well.. This is a country 1/10th our size. Then people turn around and say that the pseudo HS championships (Brooks, Nike, NB, Adidas) are not true championships - geez, you think.?!. USATF is the organization that should be putting on a national meet, even for HS athletes, that would have meaning - would require registration - but then it takes the shoes companies out of the equation (as they should be). But the USATF is in bed with Nike (why the U20 meet was affiliated with the Nike meet), since the executive is generally corrupt. If they knew how to market the sport, there would be many other sponsors on board - they (or Max anyway) don't, just want to line their pockets with Nike money.

No you are wrong and ignorant. Why continue to race at 10.90 in the 100m for 2-3 extra months when instead you can start resting then preparing to run 10.40 next year?

The way to get faster as a speed/power athlete is to go through big blocks of hard lifting and training. As a high school sprinter, taking the summer to go from a 315 squat to a 405 squat is going to be HUGE for your times the following year. It's just as important, if not more important, as summer mileage for a distance runner.

seriously bent wrote:

too slow wrote:

Honestly for 90% of the competitors, this meet HURTS them. If you are a senior that's not in the top 30 nationally, then you are better off getting ready for college XC. If you are a junior not in the top 30, you should be getting ready for senior year of XC.

Same with non-distance athletes, just start getting ready for next year. A lot of sprinters will now start summer track next week too. It's insane.

New Balance, Adidas, Nike, etc don't care who is the fastest, they don't care about setting up good races. THEY CARE ABOUT MAKING MONEY OFF OF NAIVE PARENTS who think these meets will get their 4:23 milers to the Olympics.

Spoken like a true XC person - no reason why sprinters and jumpers - you know the other areas of Track and Field - need to stop competing for the summer (if there were meets). The weather is fine in many parts of the country still, just like in Europe.

But we have to kowtow to the distance people who run the sport (like Nike) who want to shut down meets, just so the distance people can get ready for Cross. Frankly for my event (and others) Cross has absolutely no relevance, but we are held hostage by it. HS coaches can't coach in the summer, College coaches as well - little wonder why kids choose to compete for summer clubs, then the HS coaches complain that their athletes are being stolen. It is why there is so little depth in Throws in this country, compared to rest of the world, and we are falling behind in many of the jumps as well these days.

We had a handful of kids try out for a National team (World U20) this week. Looked at the Canadian list for their U20 trials in a couple of weeks - dozens per event, and they have other meets as well.. This is a country 1/10th our size. Then people turn around and say that the pseudo HS championships (Brooks, Nike, NB, Adidas) are not true championships - geez, you think.?!. USATF is the organization that should be putting on a national meet, even for HS athletes, that would have meaning - would require registration - but then it takes the shoes companies out of the equation (as they should be). But the USATF is in bed with Nike (why the U20 meet was affiliated with the Nike meet), since the executive is generally corrupt. If they knew how to market the sport, there would be many other sponsors on board - they (or Max anyway) don't, just want to line their pockets with Nike money.

CO Coach wrote:

seriously bent wrote:

Spoken like a true XC person - no reason why sprinters and jumpers - you know the other areas of Track and Field - need to stop competing for the summer (if there were meets). The weather is fine in many parts of the country still, just like in Europe.

But we have to kowtow to the distance people who run the sport (like Nike) who want to shut down meets, just so the distance people can get ready for Cross. Frankly for my event (and others) Cross has absolutely no relevance, but we are held hostage by it. HS coaches can't coach in the summer, College coaches as well - little wonder why kids choose to compete for summer clubs, then the HS coaches complain that their athletes are being stolen. It is why there is so little depth in Throws in this country, compared to rest of the world, and we are falling behind in many of the jumps as well these days.

We had a handful of kids try out for a National team (World U20) this week. Looked at the Canadian list for their U20 trials in a couple of weeks - dozens per event, and they have other meets as well.. This is a country 1/10th our size. Then people turn around and say that the pseudo HS championships (Brooks, Nike, NB, Adidas) are not true championships - geez, you think.?!. USATF is the organization that should be putting on a national meet, even for HS athletes, that would have meaning - would require registration - but then it takes the shoes companies out of the equation (as they should be). But the USATF is in bed with Nike (why the U20 meet was affiliated with the Nike meet), since the executive is generally corrupt. If they knew how to market the sport, there would be many other sponsors on board - they (or Max anyway) don't, just want to line their pockets with Nike money.

Spot on. This is why I wonder why we have track events longer than 800m (maybe the 1500, maybe). There is so little loyalty to the sport of track and field in the long distance crowd, why bother catering to them at all?