I'm not keen on men I don't know trying to talk to me at park run. (I'm female). I'm there to run hard, not chat with strangers. I usually finish in the top 4 when I do park run so less serious women runners might be different. I wouldn't mind one of the top 4 men talking to me actually, but they never do (I know them all anyway and socialise with some of them so theres time to chat then) but its usually some random 20 minute plus guy who thinks I'm interested in him describing his race to me or how he saw me at some point during the race and he decides to tell me about it. Not cool. As I say, other women might be different.
Theres quite a good social scene around park run usually and thats the place to have conversations and meet new people, not before, after or during the event itself.
I've experienced guys do some odd things at park run. One time, an older male athlete ran behind me for nearly the entire run, right on my heels, as if he was glued to me. I could hear his breath, and he refused to overtake even when I slowed down. That was pretty weird. Another runner actually came up to me after the run and asked me if I was aware and how strange it was.
Another regular guy at our local park run got invited to a party at another runners' house. There was a WhatsApp group for it and I said I was willing to give people living near me a lift in my car there, as I'm teetotal. This guy at totally the other side of town contacted me privately to say he would like me to give him a lift, and I very politely said I couldn't make a big detour just to collect him and take him home, and arranged him a lift with another person who was nearer to him. At the party, he kept staring at me angrily and bumped into me a couple of times, and at park run after that when I saw him he would barge into me and try and knock me over after the run. Horrible guy.
I'm not keen on men I don't know trying to talk to me at park run. (I'm female) ...
Not sure what that was all about, but I doubt it was written by a woman.
Would you like to explain why you doubt that I'm a woman?
Maybe you don't believe women can post on the internet? Or that idiots like you have scared all of the women who might post on Lets Run away?
Maybe you have difficulty telling men and women apart?
Or are you one of those men who doesn't believe women can hold opinions?
Anyway, thank you for providing yet another example of why I am wary of runners. Its always good to be reminded of how dismissive you can be of our experiences, and how you try to embarrass those of us who try to voice an opinion.
If you ever do manage to meet one of us in real life (we are slightly more than 50% of the population), I do recommend you share your doubts with her about whether she is a woman or not, and then let us know how that goes for you.
Would you like to explain why you doubt that I'm a woman?
Maybe you don't believe women can post on the internet? Or that idiots like you have scared all of the women who might post on Lets Run away?
Maybe you have difficulty telling men and women apart?
Or are you one of those men who doesn't believe women can hold opinions?
Anyway, thank you for providing yet another example of why I am wary of runners. Its always good to be reminded of how dismissive you can be of our experiences, and how you try to embarrass those of us who try to voice an opinion.
If you ever do manage to meet one of us in real life (we are slightly more than 50% of the population), I do recommend you share your doubts with her about whether she is a woman or not, and then let us know how that goes for you.
Would you like to explain why you doubt that I'm a woman?
Maybe you don't believe women can post on the internet? Or that idiots like you have scared all of the women who might post on Lets Run away?
Maybe you have difficulty telling men and women apart?
Or are you one of those men who doesn't believe women can hold opinions?
Anyway, thank you for providing yet another example of why I am wary of runners. Its always good to be reminded of how dismissive you can be of our experiences, and how you try to embarrass those of us who try to voice an opinion.
If you ever do manage to meet one of us in real life (we are slightly more than 50% of the population), I do recommend you share your doubts with her about whether she is a woman or not, and then let us know how that goes for you.
If you ever wonder why you are single and why only weirdos approach you, come back to this thread.
Sort of accurate. The OP should check out the youtube channel, Hoe Math. This guy does a pretty good job of breaking down gender differences.
The truth is that a man has to be super duper hot to pique the average woman's interest on an intitial meeting. But, the differences between women and men in terms of partner selection are not just quantitative (i.e. women are pickier), they are also qualitative (women assess men on a wider range of criteria/are less visually-oriented). A man can move up in attractiveness rating by showing off his other qualities over time.
Greater pickiness also comes with a touchier "creep meter." Women are on the lookout for sleezy/creepy men and are more easily disgusted.
I suspect that younger generations haven't had as many opportunities to hone the in-person social skills required to successfully court one another. Yes, women have had to deal with cold-approach creeps for a long time, but it worries me that young men may have lost the courage to even attempt to woo women because they're too worried about rejection or being accused of harassment.
Just chiming in to say that if you start watching a YouTube channel called “Hoe Math” to better understand women you are basically ensuring that you will die alone, having never or rarely known a woman’s warmth.
I'm a woman, and I recommend Hoe Math. It's entertaining and mostly accurate.
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I'm not keen on men I don't know trying to talk to me at park run. (I'm female). I'm there to run hard, not chat with strangers. I usually finish in the top 4 when I do park run so less serious women runners might be different. I wouldn't mind one of the top 4 men talking to me actually, but they never do (I know them all anyway and socialise with some of them so theres time to chat then) but its usually some random 20 minute plus guy who thinks I'm interested in him describing his race to me or how he saw me at some point during the race and he decides to tell me about it. Not cool. As I say, other women might be different.
Theres quite a good social scene around park run usually and thats the place to have conversations and meet new people, not before, after or during the event itself.
I've experienced guys do some odd things at park run. One time, an older male athlete ran behind me for nearly the entire run, right on my heels, as if he was glued to me. I could hear his breath, and he refused to overtake even when I slowed down. That was pretty weird. Another runner actually came up to me after the run and asked me if I was aware and how strange it was.
Another regular guy at our local park run got invited to a party at another runners' house. There was a WhatsApp group for it and I said I was willing to give people living near me a lift in my car there, as I'm teetotal. This guy at totally the other side of town contacted me privately to say he would like me to give him a lift, and I very politely said I couldn't make a big detour just to collect him and take him home, and arranged him a lift with another person who was nearer to him. At the party, he kept staring at me angrily and bumped into me a couple of times, and at park run after that when I saw him he would barge into me and try and knock me over after the run. Horrible guy.
I'm quite wary of runners now.
You sound like a psycho. You will end up single and alone.
I'm not keen on men I don't know trying to talk to me at park run. (I'm female). I'm there to run hard, not chat with strangers. I usually finish in the top 4 when I do park run so less serious women runners might be different. I wouldn't mind one of the top 4 men talking to me actually, but they never do (I know them all anyway and socialise with some of them so theres time to chat then) but its usually some random 20 minute plus guy who thinks I'm interested in him describing his race to me or how he saw me at some point during the race and he decides to tell me about it. Not cool. As I say, other women might be different.
Theres quite a good social scene around park run usually and thats the place to have conversations and meet new people, not before, after or during the event itself.
I've experienced guys do some odd things at park run. One time, an older male athlete ran behind me for nearly the entire run, right on my heels, as if he was glued to me. I could hear his breath, and he refused to overtake even when I slowed down. That was pretty weird. Another runner actually came up to me after the run and asked me if I was aware and how strange it was.
Another regular guy at our local park run got invited to a party at another runners' house. There was a WhatsApp group for it and I said I was willing to give people living near me a lift in my car there, as I'm teetotal. This guy at totally the other side of town contacted me privately to say he would like me to give him a lift, and I very politely said I couldn't make a big detour just to collect him and take him home, and arranged him a lift with another person who was nearer to him. At the party, he kept staring at me angrily and bumped into me a couple of times, and at park run after that when I saw him he would barge into me and try and knock me over after the run. Horrible guy.
I'm quite wary of runners now.
You sound like a psycho. You will end up single and alone.
I wouldn't call this person a psycho, and I don't doubt she has had negative experiences, but what she writes is so different than my own experiences that it's actually bizarre.
I live in the US and have run lots of races. It's not unusual for me to win local or regional races, which means that I outrun most of the men. My usual experience with men who run the same speed as me or slower is positive. They often compliment my race performance, and/or we talk about our race experiences on equal terms. I'm not uninterested in a slow runner describing their race to me because I know that I am slow compared to a lot of people and that many of us are trying to get the best out of ourselves. Maybe you don't mean to come off like you're on a high horse, but your post about the 20+ minute 5k runners comes off that way.
I think that fast women are more attractive to men who take running seriously, so getting more attention from them makes sense. I guess I'm saying that I don't encounter a lot of creeps or awkward people.
Every now and then, a bonehead will try to explain something to me that he thinks I don't know (tangents, how race courses are measured, etc.), but that's rare. I've met at lot of nice guys running and the nice/creep ratio is actually better at running events (for me) than it is in regular day-to-day life.
I'm not keen on men I don't know trying to talk to me at park run. (I'm female). I'm there to run hard, not chat with strangers. I usually finish in the top 4 when I do park run so less serious women runners might be different. I wouldn't mind one of the top 4 men talking to me actually, but they never do (I know them all anyway and socialise with some of them so theres time to chat then) but its usually some random 20 minute plus guy who thinks I'm interested in him describing his race to me or how he saw me at some point during the race and he decides to tell me about it. Not cool. As I say, other women might be different.
Theres quite a good social scene around park run usually and thats the place to have conversations and meet new people, not before, after or during the event itself.
I've experienced guys do some odd things at park run. One time, an older male athlete ran behind me for nearly the entire run, right on my heels, as if he was glued to me. I could hear his breath, and he refused to overtake even when I slowed down. That was pretty weird. Another runner actually came up to me after the run and asked me if I was aware and how strange it was.
Another regular guy at our local park run got invited to a party at another runners' house. There was a WhatsApp group for it and I said I was willing to give people living near me a lift in my car there, as I'm teetotal. This guy at totally the other side of town contacted me privately to say he would like me to give him a lift, and I very politely said I couldn't make a big detour just to collect him and take him home, and arranged him a lift with another person who was nearer to him. At the party, he kept staring at me angrily and bumped into me a couple of times, and at park run after that when I saw him he would barge into me and try and knock me over after the run. Horrible guy.
I'm quite wary of runners now.
You sound like a psycho. You will end up single and alone.
You better tell my husband.
Although you probably assess women's worth in camels or something.
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You sound like a psycho. You will end up single and alone.
I wouldn't call this person a psycho, and I don't doubt she has had negative experiences, but what she writes is so different than my own experiences that it's actually bizarre.
I live in the US and have run lots of races. It's not unusual for me to win local or regional races, which means that I outrun most of the men. My usual experience with men who run the same speed as me or slower is positive. They often compliment my race performance, and/or we talk about our race experiences on equal terms. I'm not uninterested in a slow runner describing their race to me because I know that I am slow compared to a lot of people and that many of us are trying to get the best out of ourselves. Maybe you don't mean to come off like you're on a high horse, but your post about the 20+ minute 5k runners comes off that way.
I think that fast women are more attractive to men who take running seriously, so getting more attention from them makes sense. I guess I'm saying that I don't encounter a lot of creeps or awkward people.
Every now and then, a bonehead will try to explain something to me that he thinks I don't know (tangents, how race courses are measured, etc.), but that's rare. I've met at lot of nice guys running and the nice/creep ratio is actually better at running events (for me) than it is in regular day-to-day life.
Kind of thirsty, aren't you?
I don't live in North America at all, and I'm just not interested in park run for anything other than running and going home. Why isn't a polite smile and feigned minimal interest sufficient (which is what I do)?
You guys actually think Park Run is Tinder or something and people are there to date, not just to run. So its common amongst American guys to be so socially inept that they tag onto married women wanting to get home to their families because they believe that being at park run means women must be single?
I'm particularly loving the "you'll be single forever" allegation being throw around, as if its the worst fate that could possibly befall a woman in 1850s America, which is where I assume the mentality lies.
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