1. Athing Mu 1:56.5 begin season 2. Mary Moraa 1:56.8 shape now 3. Halimah Nakaayi 1:57.4 top shape 4. Tsige Duguma 1:57.6 close call with Nakaayi 5. Keely Hodgkinson 1:57.8 not yet 800 shape
The way to beat Mary is to run fast! Last years Eugene meet, where Mary came 4th, is the way to go.
you mean from the beginning fast? Didn't look at Keely her approach or tactics. Is she able to run fast from the beginning, hold on and than sprint the last 100 meter? The sprint is Moraa her thing.
Moraa should work her form, if she would be able to through her body more forward and make longer strides, like Gidey, Hassan, Tsegay do, than she would make a huge progress to get unbeatable, imo. It's always as if her posture is holding her back unnecessary.
When Keely ran in Paris last year at 1.55ish she ran alone from the front so she can do this. She runs best with an evenish split.
Moraa will sprint to the front (thus trying to tire out Keely) so at this point Keely thinks she shouldn’t go with her. Then Moraa will slow it right down (as she knows she has the better kick and less endurance). The answer at this point is to not let her. But how? You go wide to run past her and she speeds up again. But I do think Keely just needs to run her own race. If that means not going with Moraa every time she speeds up and slows down so be it.
I’d also try and kick a little bit earlier than the final 100m. You basically do not want to be behind Moraa with 100m to go.
2. Mary Moraa 1:56.8 shape now 3. Halimah Nakaayi 1:57.4 top shape 4. Tsige Duguma 1:57.6 close call with Nakaayi 5. Keely Hodgkinson 1:57.8 not yet 800 shape
Goodmorning, thread already anticipated on the 'old' news. But thanks anyway.
As you can read we're discussing now Keely's good 400m shape compared to Moraa and Nakaayi or Duguma.
Keely seems the big favourite. Makes sense of course.
I root for Mary and Halimah, in recent top shape. Halimah maybe peeked last week or maybe there is more to come with Moraa an Keely in the field. And so on..
Well, I think the 100m after the bell is important. Mary, if she's leading, likes to have a bit of a breather at that point and slow things down. But, in this race , there should be a lot of athletes wanting to push the pace after the pace maker drops out. At the very least, it will be the fastest time of the year, and probably below 1min 56sec.
When Keely ran in Paris last year at 1.55ish she ran alone from the front so she can do this. She runs best with an evenish split.
Moraa will sprint to the front (thus trying to tire out Keely) so at this point Keely thinks she shouldn’t go with her. Then Moraa will slow it right down (as she knows she has the better kick and less endurance). The answer at this point is to not let her. But how? You go wide to run past her and she speeds up again. But I do think Keely just needs to run her own race. If that means not going with Moraa every time she speeds up and slows down so be it.
I’d also try and kick a little bit earlier than the final 100m. You basically do not want to be behind Moraa with 100m to go.
Great insightful response thanks. Do you think Keely her speed has improved and what time would you predict for her in this 800m race?
Well, I think the 100m after the bell is important. Mary, if she's leading, likes to have a bit of a breather at that point and slow things down. But, in this race , there should be a lot of athletes wanting to push the pace after the pace maker drops out. At the very least, it will be the fastest time of the year, and probably below 1min 56sec.
Why do you think they will throw the fastest time of the year till now? I think Moraa and Keely will build up more slowly towards Paris.
When Keely ran in Paris last year at 1.55ish she ran alone from the front so she can do this. She runs best with an evenish split.
Moraa will sprint to the front (thus trying to tire out Keely) so at this point Keely thinks she shouldn’t go with her. Then Moraa will slow it right down (as she knows she has the better kick and less endurance). The answer at this point is to not let her. But how? You go wide to run past her and she speeds up again. But I do think Keely just needs to run her own race. If that means not going with Moraa every time she speeds up and slows down so be it.
I’d also try and kick a little bit earlier than the final 100m. You basically do not want to be behind Moraa with 100m to go.
Great insightful response thanks. Do you think Keely her speed has improved and what time would you predict for her in this 800m race?
ok, you already mentioned; 1.55/1.56 shape for Keely.
I hope Keely wins but Moraa looks really good, going to be interesting for sure. Mu has to leave the curse-see group, they are ridiculous, never showing up to race, what is up with that?
I hope Keely wins but Moraa looks really good, going to be interesting for sure. Mu has to leave the curse-see group, they are ridiculous, never showing up to race, what is up with that?
Totally don't mind and do not bother what Kersee or Mu or who ever decides when, what and where to run. Behind the screens a lot is happening we don't know and should not know, it's their business.
They can, may and have to decide what they have to do! We are just nobodies, just some side spectators.
Although, there's utterly no sense and no need to make this thread into another LR Mu versus Kersee (hate) thread.
1. Athing Mu 1:56.5 begin season 2. Mary Moraa 1:56.8 shape now 3. Halimah Nakaayi 1:57.4 top shape 4. Tsige Duguma 1:57.6 close call with Nakaayi 5. Keely Hodgkinson 1:57.8 not yet 800 shape
I just don't know how we can trust anything around Athing Mu - more from an emotional/psychological POV. I agree with you that Moraa is in sub 1.57 shape and I also agree that a happy, healthy, motivated Mu is a 1.56.5 out-of-the-gates level performer, I just am not sure at all she is (yet again) either happy, healthy or motivated. I could be totally wrong, but the constant drama that seems to follow her career post Eugene is just growing tiresome.
I'll take Moraa for the win, toss up betweem Nakaayi and KH for second and Mu looking troubled in 4th running purely on the best athletic talent in the field.
Remember when you kind of took offense at this and countered with some utterly useless cookie cutter interview she had given about "finding balance" in life?
Hurta-klecker added to the field. Just Nia Akins and Sage HK running now from the states
Thanks, a pretty nice compressed field. Concerning written expectations in this thread, recent running results and as pre Paris build up, there could be 3 battles expected;
between Mary and Keely
Halimah and Tsige
Jenna Reeky and Nia Akins
I hope / expect just two very firy battles, first between the 1:55:19 (pb) and 1:57:something ones, second the rest of the field
speculated pure on resent results versus time in season, related to Paris and not taking too much into account the personal best times from last year.
Great insightful response thanks. Do you think Keely her speed has improved and what time would you predict for her in this 800m race?
ok, you already mentioned; 1.55/1.56 shape for Keely.
No way, yet!
Sorry I meant she can run from the front not that she’s in 1.55 shape.
The problem with Keely (and others) is that if they let Moraa dictate the race they will not run to their potential as she slows it down then speeds it up. Keely didn’t appear to have too long off with an injury in the autumn and her training has been going well. She’s just set a PB in her 400m I think she is in 1.56 shape but if the race is tactical and she doesn’t deal with that well she’ll be around 1.57 I think. Only slight concern for me is lack of 800m racing and no indoors. However she opened with a very strong race last year so no reason she can’t do the same.
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