5500ft. Not sure what to make of this when you live and run at altitude year round. Plenty of states run in unbearable heat and humidity with no conversion. So who knows.
Things that are odd about CO state meet: (1) no prelims, (2) 5 divisions given the population of the state, and (3) school choice allowing for the creation of super teams/ training groups.
5500ft. Not sure what to make of this when you live and run at altitude year round. Plenty of states run in unbearable heat and humidity with no conversion. So who knows.
Things that are odd about CO state meet: (1) no prelims, (2) 5 divisions given the population of the state, and (3) school choice allowing for the creation of super teams/ training groups.
If you're trying to argue that conversion factors don't mean much for locals, you're off base and don't really know what you're talking about.
5500ft. Not sure what to make of this when you live and run at altitude year round. Plenty of states run in unbearable heat and humidity with no conversion. So who knows.
Things that are odd about CO state meet: (1) no prelims, (2) 5 divisions given the population of the state, and (3) school choice allowing for the creation of super teams/ training groups.
Eh 1a is basically not a division. Addy Ritzenhein could score in all of the boys events in the 1a level. It’s essentially 4 divisions.
Didn’t run a single fastest time over any distance. Michalak got her in the 3200m, Allori in the 1600.
She only ran 4 events and didn't have the fastest times? I'm absolutely disgusted a girl in the most competitive state didn't dominate everything. She also only runs the mile like 4 minutes faster than the average lets run poster so yeah she's really slow.
for girls cross country and for the most part distance as well it actually is. Utah, california, and a few other states it actually is, but as far as girl's depth, colorado is very high up there. It's kind of like Utah with their boy's distance depth, just not as crazy
She only ran 4 events and didn't have the fastest times? I'm absolutely disgusted a girl in the most competitive state didn't dominate everything. She also only runs the mile like 4 minutes faster than the average lets run poster so yeah she's really slow.
lol @ Colorado being the most competitive state
Well, Colorado did have the top 4 girls teams at NXN.
She only ran 4 events and didn't have the fastest times? I'm absolutely disgusted a girl in the most competitive state didn't dominate everything. She also only runs the mile like 4 minutes faster than the average lets run poster so yeah she's really slow.
Well, Colorado did have the top 4 girls teams at NXN.
Its not the most competitive state in Track and Field when they split up a state of less than 6 million people into 5 divisions. In Outdoor Track it is clearly much more competitive to win in California than it is in Colorado. The depth across divisions in Colorado makes the NXR SW easily the most competitive NXR out there, but that is different than Colorado being the most competitive state.
Right. I wonder how many CO teams would even make NXN if the athletes had to go to the public school they live closest to. There’s also the tacit recruiting that goes on, but it’s all good. Just honest Colorado folk tryin’ to get by.
The 1600/3200m conversions to sea level are 4:39 and 10:07. This was a pretty strong state meet. She has good speed for a Ritzenhein as well.
She's also a Toedebusch. You forget her mother was known for speed moreso than distance though she was great at both.
I remember her mom (we were same graduating class), wasn’t she in the top 5 at Footlocker? I remember she was a pretty strong runner herself. Not quite Dathan-level, but up there.
Right. I wonder how many CO teams would even make NXN if the athletes had to go to the public school they live closest to. There’s also the tacit recruiting that goes on, but it’s all good. Just honest Colorado folk tryin’ to get by.
Say you are mad about being beat without saying you are mad about being beat...
Well, Colorado did have the top 4 girls teams at NXN.
Its not the most competitive state in Track and Field when they split up a state of less than 6 million people into 5 divisions. In Outdoor Track it is clearly much more competitive to win in California than it is in Colorado. The depth across divisions in Colorado makes the NXR SW easily the most competitive NXR out there, but that is different than Colorado being the most competitive state.
Correct. Depth is not just a handful of the fastest runners, it’s going down much deeper into the rankings.
For example, in the 1600, according to Athletic.net, there are 4 CO girls under 5:50, 20 under 5:00 and 41 under 5:10.
In CA there are 24 under 5:50, 90 under 5:00 and 205 under 5:10. There are 42 sub-5:00 girls just in the Southern Section alone. Most of them won’t even make the state meet, let alone the final. Keep in mind that the CIF State Meet is not until next weekend so there will undoubtedly be more fast times still to come.
The fact is that the CA Southern Section alone is deeper than all of CO. Addison Ritzenhein’s 2:13 would have only been the 19th fastest time in the SS, so tripling would be a bit more of a challenge for her.
Its not the most competitive state in Track and Field when they split up a state of less than 6 million people into 5 divisions. In Outdoor Track it is clearly much more competitive to win in California than it is in Colorado. The depth across divisions in Colorado makes the NXR SW easily the most competitive NXR out there, but that is different than Colorado being the most competitive state.
Correct. Depth is not just a handful of the fastest runners, it’s going down much deeper into the rankings.
For example, in the 1600, according to Athletic.net, there are 4 CO girls under 5:50, 20 under 5:00 and 41 under 5:10.
In CA there are 24 under 5:50, 90 under 5:00 and 205 under 5:10. There are 42 sub-5:00 girls just in the Southern Section alone. Most of them won’t even make the state meet, let alone the final. Keep in mind that the CIF State Meet is not until next weekend so there will undoubtedly be more fast times still to come.
The fact is that the CA Southern Section alone is deeper than all of CO. Addison Ritzenhein’s 2:13 would have only been the 19th fastest time in the SS, so tripling would be a bit more of a challenge for her.
You are comparing sea level times to altitude. The season in CO is also much shorter with poor weather conditions most of the season. The comparison is not apples to apples.
She's also a Toedebusch. You forget her mother was known for speed moreso than distance though she was great at both.
I remember her mom (we were same graduating class), wasn’t she in the top 5 at Footlocker? I remember she was a pretty strong runner herself. Not quite Dathan-level, but up there.
Correct. Depth is not just a handful of the fastest runners, it’s going down much deeper into the rankings.
For example, in the 1600, according to Athletic.net, there are 4 CO girls under 5:50, 20 under 5:00 and 41 under 5:10.
In CA there are 24 under 5:50, 90 under 5:00 and 205 under 5:10. There are 42 sub-5:00 girls just in the Southern Section alone. Most of them won’t even make the state meet, let alone the final. Keep in mind that the CIF State Meet is not until next weekend so there will undoubtedly be more fast times still to come.
The fact is that the CA Southern Section alone is deeper than all of CO. Addison Ritzenhein’s 2:13 would have only been the 19th fastest time in the SS, so tripling would be a bit more of a challenge for her.
You are comparing sea level times to altitude. The season in CO is also much shorter with poor weather conditions most of the season. The comparison is not apples to apples.
Fair point about sea level to altitude times. But CO has an advantage in jumps and throws with altitude so we would expect relatively better perforances if that was the only variable. But only one CO boy broke 23 (barely) in the LJ compared to 27 in CA. And in TX 11 broke 24 and 53 broke 23. CO just has a relatively small population so it will always have less depth than much larger states.
It's very impressive, but not nothing I wouldn't have expected from her. I'd argue her 3k victory at Penn was more impressive. Still an insane day but she's an insane runner
I still think she'd get beat by Elizabeth Leachman of Texas in the 3200 and probably even the 1600, and Elizabeth is only a sophomore also. Now, if these two girls are still running strong and improving their senior year in high school and beyond there is hope for their future in the elite world of distance running.
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