So you would not allow any minor to have abortion? Are they too young to make that decision?
I did not say that.
If you wish to comment on my post, try to comment on my post.
So they are too young to make a decision on gender transition, but not too young to decide whether to have abortion? Why should there be any difference?
We're sterilizing our children because getting a sex change went from a low to high status endeavor, by and large. The leftist impulse to seek out victims to defend and subvert civil society has brought us to this point.
These people still have as high of rates of depression and self-deletion as they did before transitioning. Defying nature is clearly not the answer.
I think once people stop and think about the gruesome, Mengelian procedures inflicted on these people, and all of the horrible side effects, the support to expand access to these procedures will wain.
High status endeavor? Then why do so many trans people still try to go stealth? They don't want high status?
But telling adults that they can't choose this path, no matter how much I think it is a bad idea . . . is a really bad idea. Adults can make their own decisions. And trying to take that right away from them by declaring them mentally ill doesn't cut it.
>>Adults can make their own decisions. And trying to take that right away from them by declaring them mentally ill doesn't cut it.<<
Do you believe this as a truth? So you hold the same truth for purchasing a handgun? Or is it not a truth, and just something you selectively say, but act like it is a truth?
I'm interested to know what consequences the 'experts' who rushed to the judgment that gender transitioning was the best practice approach gender dysphoria will face.
We're sterilizing our children because getting a sex change went from a low to high status endeavor, by and large. The leftist impulse to seek out victims to defend and subvert civil society has brought us to this point.
These people still have as high of rates of depression and self-deletion as they did before transitioning. Defying nature is clearly not the answer.
I think once people stop and think about the gruesome, Mengelian procedures inflicted on these people, and all of the horrible side effects, the support to expand access to these procedures will wain.
High status endeavor? Then why do so many trans people still try to go stealth? They don't want high status?
That’s right. Want a high risk of assault? Come out as trans. It’s not some high school craze.
The posters mentioning suicide rates never seem interested in the role of the trans person’s family in that. Rejection and alienation from parents and loved ones is the common cause of those suicides.
The sex change industry is estimated at $2.1 billion dollars and climbing. That's the motivation-money. Doctors and hospitals are now being sued by adults who were transitioned as children. When they start winning these suits and the financial penalty makes these mutilating surgeries on children financially risky, it will slow down, if not stop.
The U.S. sex reassignment surgery market size was estimated at USD 2.1 billion in 2022 and is anticipated to grow at a CAGR of 11.25% from 2023 to 2030.
yes okay, happy to revise that part. but I'd like to see a complete ban on under 18s being able to have this kind of surgery. and then a 3-year process where you have to meet various doctors and psychologists and whatnot, so you really understand what you are letting yourself in for, so the earliest you would be able to have your genitals chopped off would be 21.
But telling adults that they can't choose this path, no matter how much I think it is a bad idea . . . is a really bad idea. Adults can make their own decisions. And trying to take that right away from them by declaring them mentally ill doesn't cut it.
>>Adults can make their own decisions. And trying to take that right away from them by declaring them mentally ill doesn't cut it.<<
Do you believe this as a truth? So you hold the same truth for purchasing a handgun? Or is it not a truth, and just something you selectively say, but act like it is a truth?
It's funny how you mention individual freedoms meanwhile doctors don't have the freedom to deny giving "gender-affirming care" without being sued.
I would be shocked if many trans youth don’t deeply regret the decisions so blindly approved by today’s therapeutic community. This just seems so insanely poorly considered and poorly understood to irrevocably alter the human body after, what?, 12 months of adolescent gender questioning? Like, wtf? I say this as an AOC-supporting, Biden-voting mostly woke liberal. This is just insane.
High status endeavor? Then why do so many trans people still try to go stealth? They don't want high status?
That’s right. Want a high risk of assault? Come out as trans. It’s not some high school craze.
The posters mentioning suicide rates never seem interested in the role of the trans person’s family in that. Rejection and alienation from parents and loved ones is the common cause of those suicides.
They also disregard the trans person’s mental state. They want to attribute the suicide to external factors only.
We don’t affirm anorexics by telling them they’re actually fat.
We also don’t tell depressed people - it’s normal.
Yes we do. No decent psychologist is affirming a depressed person's beliefs that the world is a horrible place, everything is hopeless and that they should be dead. None.
We also don’t tell depressed people - it’s normal.
Yes we do. No decent psychologist is affirming a depressed person's beliefs that the world is a horrible place, everything is hopeless and that they should be dead. None.
You just described the opposite of telling a depressed person it’s normal.
They treat the depression. The goal treatment is to rid the person of depression. They aren’t affirming the condition.
I would be shocked if many trans youth don’t deeply regret the decisions so blindly approved by today’s therapeutic community. This just seems so insanely poorly considered and poorly understood to irrevocably alter the human body after, what?, 12 months of adolescent gender questioning? Like, wtf? I say this as an AOC-supporting, Biden-voting mostly woke liberal. This is just insane.
Meh. Have all the abortions you want and cut off your genitals and take all your drugs. Don’t care. Destroy your body. Not my problem. Don’t forget to take your 8th booster, it’s safe and effective.
I would be shocked if many trans youth don’t deeply regret the decisions so blindly approved by today’s therapeutic community. This just seems so insanely poorly considered and poorly understood to irrevocably alter the human body after, what?, 12 months of adolescent gender questioning? Like, wtf? I say this as an AOC-supporting, Biden-voting mostly woke liberal. This is just insane.
Meh. Have all the abortions you want and cut off your genitals and take all your drugs. Don’t care. Destroy your body. Not my problem. Don’t forget to take your 8th booster, it’s safe and effective.
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