What would happen if Bryce Hoppel ran Lydiard/Snell mileage?

Leave 800m runners alone. wrote:

O.P., I have given your thread more thought. Because the modern 800m runner may log (30 to 45) road miles per week, are you accusing the modern 800m runner of not training hard enough? Have you wondered what changes occurred in training for the world to go from less than a dozen sub-1:44 800m men all-time about 35 years ago to close to 150 men, all-time sub-1:44 800m today? At least in part due to books written by Peter Coe & David Martin, weight training, vigorous weight training has become the norm for 800m runners. There are only 168 hours in a week. In order for 800m men & women to have the time and energy to train properly, what do you want the modern 800m runner to do less in order to have the time and energy to log 100 miles per week?

the original Peter Coe book wrote:

Ackley wrote:

Didn’t David Martin say Coe 100 miles but didn’t count warm ups and easy running?

No. Later in Coe’s career, when he was entertaining the idea of moving up to the 5000m, his training logs were observed by Lydiard, and being Lydiard with his heavyset Lydiard ways, made a Lydiard case that Coe was running high mileage, afterall, and the Lydiard-ites on this board, like HRE jumped on it, and petitioned the case so much on this forum, saying Peter Coe had been deceptive with Coe’s training principles. But just watch the movie; look what Peter Coe says.

the original Peter Coe book wrote:

the original Peter Coe book wrote:

No. Later in Coe’s career, when he was entertaining the idea of moving up to the 5000m, his training logs were observed by Lydiard, and being Lydiard with his heavyset Lydiard ways, made a Lydiard case that Coe was running high mileage, afterall, and the Lydiard-ites on this board, like HRE jumped on it, and petitioned the case so much on this forum, saying Peter Coe had been deceptive with Coe’s training principles. But just watch the movie; look what Peter Coe says.

“At 14, I really thought he was good. And at 16, …if I was patient, I thought he could be a World Beater.”

”Patient” in what way? With big mileage100 miles/week training?

No. Watch the movie to see.

the original Peter Coe book wrote:

the original Peter Coe book wrote:

No. Later in Coe’s career, when he was entertaining the idea of moving up to the 5000m, his training logs were observed by Lydiard, and being Lydiard with his heavyset Lydiard ways, made a Lydiard case that Coe was running high mileage, afterall, and the Lydiard-ites on this board, like HRE jumped on it, and petitioned the case so much on this forum, saying Peter Coe had been deceptive with Coe’s training principles. But just watch the movie; look what Peter Coe says.

“At 14, I really thought he was good. And at 16, …if I was patient, I thought he could be a World Beater.”

”Patient” in what way? With big mileage100 miles/week training?

No. Watch the movie to see.