You have no clue what aging does to the body..one of many subjects you're apparently clueless about.
Its not a slow gentle linear drop in performance when you age. Ask any good masters runner how much they lost between certain years.
If you watched the end of the race, you could clearly see that Kipchoge picked it up and was passing people. Completely shattering your lame theory again.
Look, your claim that it's due to age to the extent of the degree, direction, circumstances of decline is just as subjective as my subjective assessment of drugs.
What will bring us both closer to the truth is that we worked together and combine both subjective assessments to produce a slightly more objective but still subjective answer.
So you need to consider my subjective assessment that the degree of the decline from first 2:01:09 to 2:09 from Berlin to Boston and to 2:06 in Tokyo within months both in terms of the time performance and the positional order of finishing from 1st to 6th and 1st to 10th respectively does not befit a VERY VERY RECENT WR HOLDER whose body or biomechanics also moved in a certain suitable angle, frequency and amplitude across the surface of the earth.
The angle, frequency, and amplitude drop-off of Kipchoge's biomechanics (arms and legs/torso) relative to 2014-2022 is extremely anomalous the kinds that for my kind of human RF/EMF expertise and experience does not befit TRUE DECLINE DUE TO AGE!!! This is in addition to more conventional parameters of judgement based on position and time performance.
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In a post-race interview, Kipchoge was reported to have said, “Ja ja ja, humans are limited, totally limited! Who asked you to believe everything I say anyway? If I tell you to go jump off a cliff… [indecipherable muttering as he walked off in a huff]”.
"Limitless" is all a marketing scam, it's all about the money, sport is just as corrupt as governments and industries. I mean the whole earth is corrupt to the core come on???
It's not father time. You don't just drop off in high-performance ability from 2:01:09 in September 2022 to suddenly 2:09 in 2023 Boston or 2:02:42 in Berlin 2023.
If Kipchoge were to drop off with father time he would already have done sone in 2021 and 2022 and he wouldn't have won Tokyo 2022 and Berlin 2022 in 2:02 and 2:01 at all, he would have declined there and then and not declined in 2023 only!!!
Therefore the only reasons that can explain his unusual decline isn't really age but drugs. He stopped taking the PEDs or whatever cheating technique and so explains the drastic drop off.
An athlete not on drugs will not drop off any more than 5minutes off his 2:01:09 PB in my judgement. He would still be running lots of 2:02s and 2:03s at any marathon in the world, not 2:06 and 2:09, on supershoes no less.
EK isn’t washed up yet, and he will be on the Kenyan team, but no, he’s no longer the prohibitive favorite to win. The EK of today is like most of the top elite marathoners, capable of a very good race, but a mediocre race or stinker is possible too. For more than a decade he ONLY had a great races, an unheard of feat, now he’s just another guy who might win a big race if things break right. That’s what all of the other top guys are like after Kiptum’s death. Like an aging fastball pitcher, what EK needs to do is adapt and survive. He cannot start races at wr pace, he figuratively needs to mix in the off speed pitches, and if he’s willing to do this, he’s still a contender for the podium, if not gold, in the watered down Olympic field.
Those ignorant people who claim Kipchoge is victim of father time ought to be given a gentle pat on the head because Kipchoge was just as old or nearly just as old in 2022 than 2023 but yet didn't run identical or almost identical performances despite having no known severe illness like cancer, leukemia, heart disease, Achilles injury or surgery, femur fracture, chronic tendonitis, cruciate ligament etc. Instead he ran as differently as Heaven from Hell!!! His preparation, training was the same as ever in 2022 as in 2023, 2021, 2020, 2019, 2018, 2017, 2016, 2015, 2014 and so forth, in fact he even exuded confidence just after Berlin 2022 that he was sure he could go faster in the very next year but his stupid training partner Sammy screwed up all those plans when he was caught for testosterone and from then on AIU was hard on his heels!!!! Eliud Kipchoge simply couldn't dope no more and so ruined all his plans for continued WR breaking spree into 40 years old.
Actually Eliud already showed signs to all of us in 2020 London Marathon in October when I think he finished like 8th in 2:06:49----THAT WAS HIS TRUE AGE AND AGE DECLINE WITHOUT PEDs!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Nothing about injury or any other excuses, he trained perfect, build-up perfect, all without drugs or otherwise and ran true to his real age and shape of 2:06:49!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
If he was gonna be, act and run true to his old age, 2020 was the year that offered a glimpse or important objective or relatively objective hint/clue for the whole world with his 2:06:49 even in supershoes no less, REGARDLESS of the excuse of COVID!!!
He was not supposed to come back 9 months later to win Tokyo Olympics nor another 6 months later to run a shocking 2:02:40 and another shocking WR 7 months later in 2:01:09!!!!
NO WAY, just NO NO NO!!!!
I know sport is supposed to overcome all boundaries and limits but this is absolutely SCAM, DOPING SCAM BY KIPCHOGE!!!
Not every sportsman or sport performance is 'limitless' or truly 'limitless', actually most are doped AF hence faked and limited!!!
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Eliud Kipchoge just ran 2:06 over 20 years after winning gold at the 2003 World Championships in the 5000m over Bekele and El Guerrouj. His consistency and greatness over that time period is unprecedented. I give it up to Bekele for his occasional great performances in the marathon, of course, same with Haile, but Kipchoge was always a few years older than he said he was and held it together better for longer than any other marathoner. He was probably 22 or 23, not 18 or 19 in 2003. He's probably 43-45 years old now.
Kipchoge has been training at an elite level since he was a teenager (like 20 years ago?) The body can handle only so much wear-and-tear.
He's almost certainly been doping with EPO at least that long.
I'm kind of with you dearest Coevett!!! For Eliud Kipchoge will I be willing to travel the breadth and width of the Earth to say he had been doping previously for all his unbeaten marathon wins and records, so is Kelvin Kiptum whom I have subjectively concluded satisfactorily to be doping as well by his immoral appetite for sex and women.
The moment a man/woman falls prey to the sexual lust of his/her eyes, it's game over already, a TOTAL spiral to a bottomless pit!!! Nothing he/she says, does, thinks in the future can ever be reliable, trustworthy and honorable/ethical unless repented and forgiven by God.
It's very hard to change and correct sexual sin!!! It's intractable. Sexual sin is too instinctive.
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Eliud Kipchoge just ran 2:06 over 20 years after winning gold at the 2003 World Championships in the 5000m over Bekele and El Guerrouj. His consistency and greatness over that time period is unprecedented. I give it up to Bekele for his occasional great performances in the marathon, of course, same with Haile, but Kipchoge was always a few years older than he said he was and held it together better for longer than any other marathoner. He was probably 22 or 23, not 18 or 19 in 2003. He's probably 43-45 years old now.
Bekele who runs clean can do better than 2:06 with his 2:04:19, and Bekele struggled more severely with age and injuries and what not than a seemingly evergreen Kipchoge who was completely in the marathon invincible----the opposite fortunes of Bekele, how can this be????? Kipchoge is nowhere near Bekele's talent and ability but while the latter kept hitting road block after road block in his preparation for marathon races and at marathon races, Kipchoge seemingly skirted and skipped all these vicissitudes like a magician seemingly ageless and tireless seriously?????
Is he really David Blaine of marathon running or a more conceivable doping maestro???
There is simply NO SUCH THING ON THIS EARTH AS UNBEATEN FOR MORE THAN 1 DECADE AT THE MARATHON!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
It's not limitless, it's not overcoming, it's not talent, it's not GOAT, it's DOPING!!!!!!!
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