The women this year doing a great job disproving the shoe fanatics. This is the third full season with the shoes and only now are the women seeing the kind of drop the men did. That first indoor season Emily Mackay was ranked #1 with a 4:30. Now she would barely qualify.
without casting judgement, the fast heat of the sec 3000 was not that fast going out at 3:06 for first 1000. The AL ladies were already qualified I guess but noone else seemed to go for it. The acc 3000 was a little closer at 3:00
Yeah ACC was definitely going for it and had teammate pacers. Bush would have had to run under 8:54 (a PR) to make a spot though.
At SEC, the fastest runners in heat 2 (Lemnegole, Olemomoi) didn't need a qualifier. Sydney Thorvaldsen came in 4th overall and was only two seconds off her PR. 8:53.xx would have been a 14 second PR for her, unlikely.
without casting judgement, the fast heat of the sec 3000 was not that fast going out at 3:06 for first 1000. The AL ladies were already qualified I guess but noone else seemed to go for it. The acc 3000 was a little closer at 3:00
But others like Thorvaldson and Kosgei ran SB or PB in that heat. So I don’t see how that heat confirms his point athletes just sat back and didn’t go for it.
You saw the meets. Don’t tell me you thought everybody produced max effort, many of them coasting to the finish EVEN THOUGH they could of qual. If kipyegon wins the 1500m in 4:10, was that exciting. We saw that in every conf meet. Open your eyes and rewatch the meets.
You saw the meets. Don’t tell me you thought everybody produced max effort, many of them coasting to the finish EVEN THOUGH they could of qual. If kipyegon wins the 1500m in 4:10, was that exciting. We saw that in every conf meet. Open your eyes and rewatch the meets.
This is nothing new though. Conference meets historically produce few indoor distance qualifiers. It's often that runners have multiple events, or that no one is keen to be a rabbit and take a race out hard. Stars are already q'd, so no incentive to run fast.
This of course makes exceptions like Valby's 8:42 3000, or the famous Nuguse 3:34 1500 all the more remarkable.
Stanford & OK State have some decidin' to do, given Jenks & Roe are both racing the 5k approx 30 minutes before the start of the DMRs.
Speaking of the 5k, don't be surprised if Bunnage takes off with PV and stays with her as long as possible. Amy did that at the Nuttycombe xc meet last fall, staying with PV & Tuohy until the 2.3k mark until falling back to 13th, then did it again this past weekend at the UW Ken Shannon meet, staying with Ejore & other pros until the final couple laps before falling back to 6th.
There are some who believe The TRACK at New Balance is the fastest track in the world. Many believe this is just corporate marketing hype.
However, this claim can gain further credence by the end of this Friday with completion of the 5ks and DMRs. Very likely one or more indoor CRs will be set, with Valby very possibly getting her 14:52 Oly Q if FL coaches don't try to reign her in but allow Parker to run as fast as she feels.
based on qualifiers and their seed marks scoring for W would be Arkansas 67 with almost all of it from 200/400 + 4x400 with 2 doubling 200/400. Can they still run and win 4x400? Florida 47 USC 30 Washington 29 Ole Miss 29 LSU 28 Texas 28 TX Tech 26 OK State 26 Oregon 21 Georgia 21 Stanford 21 Notre Dame 21
Valby has a chance to join a very select group: the 5x NCAA Champions Sorority.
If she can pull off the 3K/5K double next week and win the 5K outdoors, she will have won five NCAA titles. And it would be in a span of only four seasons - outdoor '23, cross country '23, indoor '24, outdoor '24. Only three runners have achieved this in the past 24 years.
Speaking of the 5k, don't be surprised if Bunnage takes off with PV and stays with her as long as possible. Amy did that at the Nuttycombe xc meet last fall, staying with PV & Tuohy until the 2.3k mark until falling back to 13th, then did it again this past weekend at the UW Ken Shannon meet, staying with Ejore & other pros until the final couple laps before falling back to 6th.
There are some who believe The TRACK at New Balance is the fastest track in the world. Many believe this is just corporate marketing hype.
However, this claim can gain further credence by the end of this Friday with completion of the 5ks and DMRs. Very likely one or more indoor CRs will be set, with Valby very possibly getting her 14:52 Oly Q if FL coaches don't try to reign her in but allow Parker to run as fast as she feels.
I agree, she will try to stick with her. Roe might as well. Usually Roe runs at the back and closes but she has been running differently this season, going to the front in solo efforts.
We may have an early breakaway with Valby, Olemomoi, Lemnegole, Roe, Bunnage.
Given how speedy the track is,and the competition, you are right we may see a CR.
Valby has a chance to join a very select group: the 5x NCAA Champions Sorority.
If she can pull off the 3K/5K double next week and win the 5K outdoors, she will have won five NCAA titles. And it would be in a span of only four seasons - outdoor '23, cross country '23, indoor '24, outdoor '24. Only three runners have achieved this in the past 24 years.
She has competed in seasons since 2021 XC so really it is across 9 seasons of eligibility - '21-'24. I am not sure why you would only count the seasons she wins the title?
Her dmr is also capable of winning. Has anyone in history ever won the DMR/3k/5k triple in indoors? That would be epic. If she did, I would put Valby on the 1200m leg as Asekol is capable of sub4:25.
Has anyone in history ever won the DMR/3k/5k triple in indoors?
No.
Kim Smith (2004), Sally Kipyego (2007), Abbey D'Agostino (2013 and 2014), Molly Seidel (2016), Karissa Schweizer (2018), and Katelyn Tuohy (2023) are the only women to do the 3K/5K double. None of them won the DMR.