I DIDN'T nor DO I BELIEVE Kiochoge had anything done to anyone but I wouldn't rule out one of his associates/affiliates.
I'm looking forward to the thread you start about who killed Prefontaine.
Was it Jim Ryun's uncle?
Frank Shorter's second cousin?
Marty Liquori's massage therapist?
I can't wait to hear what conspiracy theory you come up with.
You probably have said or typed those words so often in your life, you do not know the origin.
Mark Lane, Esq. was hired by Marguerite Oswald to investigate everything: Murder of JFK, murder of her son, Lee Oswald, Ruby, everything. F.B.I. would not officially allow Mark Lane to be attorney of record. F.B.I. did not want to share info. C.I.A. were the ones who first said conspiracy theory and conspiracy theorist. C.I.A. labeled Mark Lane conspiracy theorist in order to attempt to discredit Mark Lane. Mark Lane died a few years ago. No one was able to discredit him.
No sir that is not me, he is a lot lighter than me LOL
I don't think Eliud has anything to do what what may or may not have happened but there are enough greedy people around him were you can't rule out speculation of his associates acting on their own. First let me say it could have been a true accident but let's also ponder why it could have could otherwise:
1.) Do you know if Kevin became the first OFFICIAL sub 2 hour marathoner in Rotterdam that every other marathoner stock would take a massive hit. Kevin would be an instant LEGEND CEMENTED by an accomplishment even Eliud could accomplish...THAT IS THE BIGGEST factor
2.). He would be a legitimate threat to stop Eliud from being the first EVER 3 time Olympic Marathon Champion. NO one has win 3 titles needles to say 3 consecutive.
Both of those are monster reason to be suspicious of Kevin's accident. Remember stranger things have happened is. Nancy Kerrigan Olympic hitman to try to break one's of main competition in Ice Skating.
To claim Kelvin died for any other reason than by his own fault of negligence and/or recklessness is extremely foolhardy and irresponsible!!!!
Both the objective facts and subjective interpretations from the accident site and survivor accounts all point to Kelvin being egregious behind the wheel!!!!!!! Didn't you read????
Sharon Kosgei the non-driver (passenger) said she was paying more attention on the roads than Kelvin (the driver!!) to have noted before Kelvin did that the car had veered off the road!!!! 2 things then stands out:
1) Kelvin was mentally 'zoned out' or distracted at the wheel and has his thoughts elsewhere even if his physical eyes were on the roads as the latter couldn't detect the car veering off the road.
2) Kelvin was driving way over the speed-limit for being mentally 'zoned out' and/or 'going blank' on the road so that when he was given a wake up call by Sharon he couldn't control easily, or, even if he ultimately shouldn't control it easily the car would have at least not been so wrecked by obvious super-high impact forces due to obviously over-exceeded speed limits that even had Gervaise his coach some distance flew out of the car and perched uphill on a road somewhere!!!!!
No sir that is not me, he is a lot lighter than me LOL
I don't think Eliud has anything to do what what may or may not have happened but there are enough greedy people around him were you can't rule out speculation of his associates acting on their own. First let me say it could have been a true accident but let's also ponder why it could have could otherwise:
1.) Do you know if Kevin became the first OFFICIAL sub 2 hour marathoner in Rotterdam that every other marathoner stock would take a massive hit. Kevin would be an instant LEGEND CEMENTED by an accomplishment even Eliud could accomplish...THAT IS THE BIGGEST factor
2.). He would be a legitimate threat to stop Eliud from being the first EVER 3 time Olympic Marathon Champion. NO one has win 3 titles needles to say 3 consecutive.
Both of those are monster reason to be suspicious of Kevin's accident. Remember stranger things have happened is. Nancy Kerrigan Olympic hitman to try to break one's of main competition in Ice Skating.
You can't rule out anything these days
First, you are repeating what anyone with common sense already knows. You are merely speculating for the appraisal of others.
Anyone who takes the time to announce something that they are or aren't going to do, especially to complete strangers, reeks of insecurity. Do you think you watching the marathon or not will make others do the same?
Lastly, shame on you to even insinuate Eliud's "people" would even think of doing such an act.
Like Prefontaine, it was a terrible accident, period. Let it go and drop your ego in the box by the door.
My condolences but I'm not watching the Men's Olympic Marathon, something odd about the whole scenario.
The guy training over 250km a week driving at 11pm crashes. I'd suggest cause of the crash that killed him is falling asleep at the wheel 😕
This is one of the more intelligent comments I have seen on this thread!!! Yes, BUT FALLING ASLEEP AT THE WHEEL IS NOT ENOUGH TO CAUSE 1) A CAR ACCIDENT, AND 2) DEATH BY CAR ACCIDENT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Tragedy is always cumulative and a chain-of-events!!!! At each event stage in a long chain of exponentially escalating sequence of events, there is always time, opportunity or probability of escape/relief/respite/remediation at each event stage in space and time!!!!!!!!!!!! YES!!!!!!!
Before the car could 1) crash, and 2) crash leading to death, Kelvin could have of course asked somebody to drive which would have prevented or probably (by probability) prevented 1), and Kelvin could have of course also drove more slowly and cautiously with rest breaks to boot which would have prevented or probably also prevented 2)!!!!!!!!
IT'S NOT THAT EASY TO DIE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! DEATH RESULTS ONLY BY ESCALATING CHAIN-OF-EVENTS with each escalating stage being slightly more irreversible in space and time than the previous, with death of course the final stage ultimate irreversible event!!!
Death does not occur easily!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! It's accumulated stage-by-stage, probability upon probability!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! A person of prudence, wisdom, knowledge and understanding would have undertaken or rather FORETOLD/PREDICTED tragedy or death enough to have undertaken re-mediating measures to reduce probability of tragedy or death long before, or just before it happens!!!
The key is THINKING AHEAD OR FEW STEPS AHEAD, BE MENTALLY IN THE ZONE, CONCENTRATED, AWARE, PRUDENT, PLAN, PLAN, PLAN, FORETELL AND FORESEE, understand your actions and all its consequences.........
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No sir that is not me, he is a lot lighter than me LOL
I don't think Eliud has anything to do what what may or may not have happened but there are enough greedy people around him were you can't rule out speculation of his associates acting on their own. First let me say it could have been a true accident but let's also ponder why it could have could otherwise:
1.) Do you know if Kevin became the first OFFICIAL sub 2 hour marathoner in Rotterdam that every other marathoner stock would take a massive hit. Kevin would be an instant LEGEND CEMENTED by an accomplishment even Eliud could accomplish...THAT IS THE BIGGEST factor
2.). He would be a legitimate threat to stop Eliud from being the first EVER 3 time Olympic Marathon Champion. NO one has win 3 titles needles to say 3 consecutive.
Both of those are monster reason to be suspicious of Kevin's accident. Remember stranger things have happened is. Nancy Kerrigan Olympic hitman to try to break one's of main competition in Ice Skating.
You can't rule out anything these days
First, you are repeating what anyone with common sense already knows. You are merely speculating for the appraisal of others.
Anyone who takes the time to announce something that they are or aren't going to do, especially to complete strangers, reeks of insecurity. Do you think you watching the marathon or not will make others do the same?
Lastly, shame on you to even insinuate Eliud's "people" would even think of doing such an act.
Like Prefontaine, it was a terrible accident, period. Let it go and drop your ego in the box by the door.
Agreed, thanks dear! I upvoted your comment, do upvote mine not that it matters.
2.) 1st man to officially run sub 2 hour marathon?
NOW tell me who was the first guy to run sub 4 minute mile and who was the next Olympic 1500m Champion right after the sub 4 minute mile was broken? I guarantee you more people know and will always remember the historic barrier FOREVER but mentioning and remembering of Olympic Champions come and go even 2 and 3 time Olympic Champions are eventually forgotten.
Now imagine the threat of someone who was a heavy FAVORITE to run the first OFFICIAL sub 2 hour marathon and also favorite for the Olympic 🥇 Gold 🤔. How feared he would be in the Olympic year.
And why A WEEK before his death, a MEDIA video surfaced asking, "Is Kevin Kiptum Bad for Running?". I can't recall that question being asked about by a media running affiliate towards ANY athlete in the last 40 years?
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2.) 1st man to officially run sub 2 hour marathon?
NOW tell me who was the first guy to run sub 4 minute mile and who was the next Olympic 1500m Champion right after the sub 4 minute mile was broken? I guarantee you more people know and will always remember the historic barrier FOREVER but mentioning and remembering of Olympic Champions come and go even 2 and 3 time Olympic Champions are eventually forgotten.
Now imagine the threat of someone who was a heavy FAVORITE to run the first OFFICIAL sub 2 hour marathon and also favorite for the Olympic 🥇 Gold 🤔. How feared he would be in the Olympic year.
And why A WEEK before his death, a MEDIA video surfaced asking, "Is Kevin Kiptum Bad for Running?". I can't recall that question being asked about by a media running affiliate towards ANY athlete in the last 40 years?
Sir, you are out there! You are making no sense and fishing without a pole or a license. Go to bed, please. You should be ashamed to think such things let alone put them on a running forum for all to see. Good grief!
VIPAM apparently expects Jakob to be murdered now too, as he is now arguing that if you are really good you are in danger.
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Trolling must come natural for you because this isn't about just being good but as a Legendary Troll you already knew that but Trolled anyway.
How Pathetic 😵
Why is it that you cannot accept reality? Kiptum died in a car accident. Have you not known that this sort of thing happens? Like how can you be this out of touch with reality?
The guy training over 250km a week driving at 11pm crashes. I'd suggest cause of the crash that killed him is falling asleep at the wheel 😕
This is one of the more intelligent comments I have seen on this thread!!! Yes, BUT FALLING ASLEEP AT THE WHEEL IS NOT ENOUGH TO CAUSE 1) A CAR ACCIDENT, AND 2) DEATH BY CAR ACCIDENT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
No clue what you're talking about.
But its not that complicated.
Every year hundreds of people DIE from falling asleep at the wheel and driving off the road.
Falling asleep can and does lead to a persons foot pressing down unconsciously on the accelerator and speeding up the car.
Many wake up at the last minute (as Kelvin probably did) and react poorly.
This was nothing but a tragic accident. We don't even know if sleep was an issue. He could have been speeding and was distracted.
Does anyone know how long he had been driving for? Not just that day but over his life?
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