But top Kenyans don't dope it doesn't benefit them. Someone who profits from dopers said that.
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Ummmmmm wrote:
Due process takes a while sometimes. Also better to get the facts straight before letting the public know to avoid unnecessary speculation. Something the US could learn from.
Yes indeed. There was a lot of back and forth until he was provisionally suspended last summer, and there was of course a thread here about that suspension.
Then it had to go to a tribunal, and it seems the decision was made in August 2023? Not sure why it wasn't published earlier.
Theoretically he could go to CAS now, but I doubt he will.
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McRunnin wrote:
Wow! No wonder it’s so difficult to catch athletes who are doping. Testers have to sometimes literally chase after dopers and catch them when they try to run away! Very difficult to do when going after world-class runners. Sounds like anti-doping agencies need to invest in sprint training for their officers.
Part of the novelty of this one is that he was a 9th place finisher. He had been likely removed from the international doping testing pool. Nowadays in Kenya, you need to be eligible (aka tested 3+ times) to compete at Trials and you get tested when you get there. This stuff would not play.
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Coevett wrote:
Five of the 20 fastest Kenyans over 800m since 2016 have now been banned. Around half of the remaining 15 were training partners.
That’s a shocking statistic, no matter how it’s sliced. Why so prevalent in the 800 specifically?
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Pro Track and field is a wild sport. I don’t think some of you people understand the impact on participation among youths with these news of these athletes caught doping or caught evading drug tests. It’s slowly turning into a disgraced, empty , niche sport. Nobody wants to do track and field , even in the third world. Doping rules this sport
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Coevett wrote:
Five of the 20 fastest Kenyans over 800m since 2016 have now been banned. Around half of the remaining 15 were training partners.
That’s a shocking statistic, no matter how it’s sliced. Why so prevalent in the 800 specifically?
I think drugs can give the greatest boost in the 400 and 800. The longstanding womens records are good evidence of this.
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For anyone curious, this is the race that he was approached after
Kenyan 2022 800m Trials:
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newaccountsinceyourwebsitesucks wrote:
I think drugs can give the greatest boost in the 400 and 800. The longstanding womens records are good evidence of this.
+1
The men's all time list too. They still have athletes from the 80s - before testing became serious - in the top 5. Compare that f.ex. to the 10000 or the marathon.
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newaccountsinceyourwebsitesucks wrote:
Pervasive cheating wrote:
That’s a shocking statistic, no matter how it’s sliced. Why so prevalent in the 800 specifically?
I think drugs can give the greatest boost in the 400 and 800. The longstanding womens records are good evidence of this.
It could be that, or it could be that the drugs 800m runners use more are more easier to catch. More Kenyans are caught with roids and other things than EPO. That's surely because EPO is easy to get away with, at least micro-dosing, not because Kenyan marathoners prefer nandrolene to EPO.
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Even Rektroll will find it hard to apologise for him, although he'll still claim that he isn't actually a 'doper' as he didn't fail a test.
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Another runner who trained in US caught for Doping
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I think the biggest takeaway from this whole situation is that Saruni showed up to the Kenyan trials glowing with PEDs and with the expectation that he wouldn't be tested at all....this wasn't a random out of competition test or a smaller meet.
As much as I'd like to think Kenya has been making some progress with their doping problem it's not a good sign that experienced athletes are showing up to the biggest and most important meet of the year with the expectation that there would be no testing.
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I hadn't watched a video of Saruni's 2018 NCAA record 1:43.25 until now. I am very skeptical that he was not aided by banned performance enhancing drugs during they attempt. I sincerely hope that the NCAA will remove Saruni's likely dirty result from the record book. Does anyone know whether the NCAA will remove his record, or what the procedure is for doing so?
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How many more Kenyans need to be banned before they stop letting them steal medals and money from other athletes? Making a mockery out of this sport, any other country with 70+ current athletes under drug suspension would have been punished a long time ago.
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Is he getting suspended now for an infraction done in 2022? It takes over a year? was he able to compete during the interim period? What a racket.
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Awsi Dooger wrote:
Two guys dashed away in total. One slowed down after about a minute and was caught. He gave a false name. His phone revealed the true name. He admitted that the other guy who ran away was Michael Saruni.
Interesting. This obviously didn't happen in America bc private citizens can't just randomly apprehend & forcefully detain other private citizens for what amounts to RULE breaking, which isn't a LEGAL justification. In the U.S. this is Abduction & Kidnapping, a
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Doping is so rife in Kenyan distance running that they are macrodosing, making it much easier to catch unless the athlete is deemed too big to fail. In international competition it is the macrodosers blowing away the microdosers while the clean athletes cannot even make the race.
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What percent of the top 100m runners were caught doping? And Usain Bolt beat all of them. Hmmm. Sounds like Lance Armstrong.
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Jonathan Gault wrote:
Absolutely wild story here. Michael Saruni -- the NCAA 800m record holder, 2021 Olympian, and former training partner of Olympic champ Emmanuel Korir -- has been banned four years for evading a test.
All the details are in the decision below. Doping control testers tried to test him at the 2022 Kenyan World Championship trials. Saruni went into a bathroom and had a friend pose as him to confuse the DCOs while Saruni ran away to avoid the test. The Anti-Doping Agency of Kenya did not buy the excuse and now Saruni is banned until 2027.
Dear Jonathan, doping indeed is rife in Kenya. Michael has been performing poorly since graduating and rather than learning about protecting himself from anthropogenic RF and EMF or his mobile phone, bluetooth ear pieces, digital wearables, home WiFi and home electrical power, he chose to learn to take PEDs instead!
If only Michael knew me personally, I would have shot him to superstardom on zero training! It was never about the training. It was always about the rest and recovery under low or zero anthropogenic RF and EMF conditions that makes the difference!!! Just ask Hobbs Kessler now! He has learned from me so well in the past 2 months since Hawaii where he ran like sh*t!!
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astro wrote:
Doping is so rife in Kenyan distance running that they are macrodosing, making it much easier to catch unless the athlete is deemed too big to fail. In international competition it is the macrodosers blowing away the microdosers while the clean athletes cannot even make the race.
Smart guy! Well said here!
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