Narve Nordas on Jakob Ingebrigtsen: "As long as I manage to beat him in Paris, that is the most important thing."

rojo · 2023-12-29T19:32:45-05:00

https://www.aftenbladet.no/sport/i/9z7POr/gaardsgutten-som-inntok-den-store-scenen-faar-aftenblad-sportens-bragdprisMy Norwegian newspaper subscription is worth its weight in gold. Aftenbladet has given its 2023 sport's achievement award to Narve Nordas and some of the quotes from Nordas are bound to turn some heads. Here are the highlights via bing/google translate.[i]- For me, it's a bit like that. Every day I think "Heck, I'll take him next year". We'll see next year. Then there will be an Olympics in Paris. Jakob Ingebrigtsen can easily beat me in all races before that, as long as I manage to beat him in Paris. That is the most important thing....[/i][i]"I never in my life thought a World Championship bronze would be possible for me. Not until after the race at Bislett in June this year. Now I think anything is possible. Now I can take gold at the Olympics next year. I don't see any limitations.[/i]He also admits that maybe he's sometimes too honest with the media."[i]Yes, I'm always a little naïve and maybe give a little too much. But I'm never going to stop being honest or saying exactly what I mean. Sometimes it's okay not to say everything, but I'm not going to go to a media training course or get a PR adviser."[/i] If you speak Norwegian, here are the quotes: – For meg er det litt slik. Hver dag tenker jeg «Hekkan, jeg skal ta ham neste år». Vi får se neste år. Da kommer det et OL i Paris. Jakob Ingebrigtsen kan gjerne slå meg i alle løp før det, så lenge jeg klarer å ta ham i Paris. Det er det viktigste, understreker Gilje Nordås og smiler... – Jeg hadde aldri noen gang i livet trodd en VM-bronse ville være mulig for meg. Ikke før etter løpet på Bislett i juni i år. Nå tror jeg alt er mulig. Nå kan jeg ta gull i OL neste år. Jeg ser ingen begrensninger... – Ja, jeg er alltid litt naiv og gir kanskje litt for mye. Men jeg kommer aldri til å slutte å være ærlig eller si akkurat hva jeg mener. Noen ganger er det greit å la være å si alt, men jeg kommer ikke til å gå på noe medietreningskurs eller få en PR-rådgiver, svarer han.At another point in the article, it says the brothers asked him to no longer be coached by their father but he declined to take that advice.

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Steve The Addict OFFICIAL -----^^^^^ wrote:
I wouldn't trust any of these top Norwegian athletes to be clean. Their success is highly suspicious for a tiny nation which should not be associated with producing naturally gifted (endurance) athletes. They've also had a history of blood doping and Ingebrigtsen brother/s on leaked documents as likely doping. That world beating hurdler is probably the most suspicious of them all. I'd say with conviction that they're all on the sauce--inge's, Nordas, Warholm. Easy as pie to not get popped. They are ahead of the testers and meticulous in their process/knowledge of the testing procedures.

True,but i wouldnt have thought narve has what it takes to beat jakob.If jakob is injured,maybe,but i dont think theyre in the same league.

2 years ago 12/30/2023 2:12am EST

re: jeff tallon

jeff tallon wrote:
Steve The Addict OFFICIAL -----^^^^^ wrote:
I wouldn't trust any of these top Norwegian athletes to be clean. Their success is highly suspicious for a tiny nation which should not be associated with producing naturally gifted (endurance) athletes. They've also had a history of blood doping and Ingebrigtsen brother/s on leaked documents as likely doping. That world beating hurdler is probably the most suspicious of them all. I'd say with conviction that they're all on the sauce--inge's, Nordas, Warholm. Easy as pie to not get popped. They are ahead of the testers and meticulous in their process/knowledge of the testing procedures.
True,but i wouldnt have thought narve has what it takes to beat jakob.If jakob is injured,maybe,but i dont think theyre in the same league.

Correct. They are not in the same league. Their personal bests at 1500m are 2.33 seconds apart, at the ‘23 World Championships Jakob was .03 ahead of Nordas, and Nordas has been improving much faster than Jakob recently. But they are NOT in the same league. And yet somehow Nordas is a threat to Jakob in Paris, and Jakob knows it, Gjert knows it and Nordas knows it.

2 years ago 12/30/2023 3:08am EST

re: Loppas

Loppas wrote:
Steve The Addict OFFICIAL -----^^^^^ wrote:
They've also had a history of blood doping
Curious to know which Norwegian athlete has been involved in blood doping!
Any runner, or cross country skier? Please tell me!

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Therese Johaug

Therese Johaug (born 25 June 1988) is a former Norwegian cross-country skier from the village of Dalsbygda in Os municipality who has competed for the clubs Tynset IF and IL Nansen. In World Ski Championships she has won ten...

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2 years ago 12/30/2023 3:59am EST

re: gidbob

gidbob wrote:
Will any other race have anything close to the drama of the men's 1500? If there's only one race I watch in the entire Olympics is has to be that one. Lyles somehow breaking the 200 record would be the only thing to make me even question that

Many swimming races will be heavily anticipated, starting with opening night Titmus vs McIntosh vs Ledecky at 400 freestyle. That race is guaranteed to be NBC's focus as the Games begin.

2 years ago 12/30/2023 4:40am EST

re: BOPA

BOPA wrote:
Loppas wrote:
Curious to know which Norwegian athlete has been involved in blood doping!
Any runner, or cross country skier? Please tell me!
Link:en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Therese_Johaug

Johaug got a 2 years ban because of a steroid lip cream -is this something we normally refer to as “blood doping”?

Steve The Addict OFFICIAL -----^^^^^ wrote:
Loppas wrote:
Curious to know which Norwegian athlete has been involved in blood doping!
Any runner, or cross country skier? Please tell me!
Link:www.espn.com/olympics/winter/2014/stor...
Link:sputnikglobe.com/20161014/norway-dopin...

Is “being accused of” the same as “having a history of” blood doping?

Steve The Addict OFFICIAL -----^^^^^ wrote:
I wouldn't trust any of these top Norwegian athletes to be clean. Their success is highly suspicious for a tiny nation which should not be associated with producing naturally gifted (endurance) athletes. They've also had a history of blood doping and Ingebrigtsen brother/s on leaked documents as likely doping. That world beating hurdler is probably the most suspicious of them all. I'd say with conviction that they're all on the sauce--inge's, Nordas, Warholm. Easy as pie to not get popped. They are ahead of the testers and meticulous in their process/knowledge of the testing procedures.

I don’t see / find the suspicious infrastructure around the Norwegians (that usually will be around dopers), but of course I (and others, you f.ex, might not have looked close enough) -who knows. But my guesses are the Norwegians are clean…

2 years ago 12/30/2023 5:15am EST

re: Ycbe

Jakob is injured, while Narve is taking more risks this season. Running more kilometers and spending more time at altitude.
Even though being injured at this time of the year isnt a total disaster for Jakob, it is far from optimal. He didnt go to sierra nevada this winter, so his altitude regime has already been adversely impacted.

2 years ago 12/30/2023 5:29am EST

re: rojo

If this fraud finds a way to win the 1500m at Paris, I will no longer be watching any professional mens event over 800m. Apart from the fact that he's the most obviously juiced male athlete in the world, he also a Slow-twitch merchant.

Absolutely crap. You mix up Finns (blood doping) and Norweigans. There is only one Norweigan (hobby jogger) convicted for doping in 20 years.

2 years ago 12/30/2023 5:54am EST

re: rojo

drugs are, well, one hell of a drug….

2 years ago 12/30/2023 6:10am EST

re: Awsi Dooger

Awsi Dooger wrote:
gidbob wrote:
Will any other race have anything close to the drama of the men's 1500? If there's only one race I watch in the entire Olympics is has to be that one. Lyles somehow breaking the 200 record would be the only thing to make me even question that
Many swimming races will be heavily anticipated, starting with opening night Titmus vs McIntosh vs Ledecky at 400 freestyle. That race is guaranteed to be NBC's focus as the Games begin.

NBC sucks at commentary. You'll prob need to pay for 2 subscriptions to watch the games with them anyhow. Get a vpn and watch BBC or CBC.

2 years ago 12/30/2023 7:57am EST

re: Kvothe

Kvothe wrote:
Awsi Dooger wrote:
Many swimming races will be heavily anticipated, starting with opening night Titmus vs McIntosh vs Ledecky at 400 freestyle. That race is guaranteed to be NBC's focus as the Games begin.
NBC sucks at commentary. You'll prob need to pay for 2 subscriptions to watch the games with them anyhow. Get a vpn and watch BBC or CBC.

BBC. Steve Cram commentating the races is awesome. The Pre and post-race analysis by Michael Johnson - honest, interesting and ‘spot on’. They are a fantastic combination. Having said that: The others on the BBC aren’t great - Paula Radcliffe is awful (high-pitched, thin voice with constant throat clearing is very irritating), and some of the others are also very poor.
Cram and Johnson make up for it. They are masters and a brilliant team.

2 years ago 12/30/2023 8:11am EST

re: gidbob

Men's marathon is also up there for me. Kipchoge vs Kiptum will be fun to watch, and the hilly course could cause chaos. The 1500 looks wide open though. Personally I'm hoping Nuguse wins since I grew up an hour from Notre Dame.

2 years ago 12/30/2023 8:58am EST

re: Nordic r

Nordic r wrote:
Jakob is injured, while Narve is taking more risks this season. Running more kilometers and spending more time at altitude.
Even though being injured at this time of the year isnt a total disaster for Jakob, it is far from optimal. He didnt go to sierra nevada this winter, so his altitude regime has already been adversely impacted.

I’m excited for Nordås, but in their last mile there was a 4,5 sec difference, and in the WC Jakob was sick, and there is some indications for Jakob being back in running (training)….

2 years ago 12/30/2023 9:13am EST

re: Not a matter of trust

Not a matter of trust wrote:
Steve The Addict OFFICIAL -----^^^^^ wrote:
I wouldn't trust any of these top Norwegian athletes to be clean. Their success is highly suspicious for a tiny nation which should not be associated with producing naturally gifted (endurance) athletes. They've also had a history of blood doping and Ingebrigtsen brother/s on leaked documents as likely doping. That world beating hurdler is probably the most suspicious of them all. I'd say with conviction that they're all on the sauce--inge's, Nordas, Warholm. Easy as pie to not get popped. They are ahead of the testers and meticulous in their process/knowledge of the testing procedures.
I’m in the camp that almost every Olympic medalist is doping. No way Jakob could dominate the way he has without being on something. Period.

The same way I had to admit reality about Bolt once Blake ran almost as fast. They trained together. Bolt seemed like something special. Blake was blatant. I feel the same about Nordas. Ain't no way. Which means I have to be realistic about Jakob too.

2 years ago 12/30/2023 9:19am EST

re: grtbcj

If they are clean, it shows the insane effect money and security can have on performance, as these folks have grown up in a petro-socialist paradise.

2 years ago 12/30/2023 10:12am EST

re: gidbob

gidbob wrote:
Ummmmmm wrote:
We have our new villain. Kerr and Jakob will be preoccupied with each other after all the smack talk. Narve is coming to strike
Will any other race have anything close to the drama of the men's 1500? If there's only one race I watch in the entire Olympics is has to be that one. Lyles somehow breaking the 200 record would be the only thing to make me even question that

Yeah the 1500m everything right now. Loads of fast guys. Strong personalities. Unpredictable championship races.

It's also just the perfect showdown between the speed guys (Wightman, Kerr, Laros) and the endurance guys (Jakob, Katir, Nordas). Nuguse somewhere in the middle perhaps.

2 years ago 12/30/2023 10:16am EST

re: grtbcj

grtbcj wrote:
If they are clean, it shows the insane effect money and security can have on performance, as these folks have grown up in a petro-socialist paradise.

If you look closer I think you will find that neither Jakob nor Narve Nordås come from money backgrounds. -Narve for instance has had two jobs and university studies aside of his running, and only recently acquired any sponsorship of importance…

2 years ago 12/30/2023 10:16am EST

re: Nordic r

Nordic r wrote:
Jakob is injured, while Narve is taking more risks this season. Running more kilometers and spending more time at altitude.
Even though being injured at this time of the year isnt a total disaster for Jakob, it is far from optimal. He didnt go to sierra nevada this winter, so his altitude regime has already been adversely impacted.

That doesn’t mean much. Last year Jakob missed the altitude stint in the winter but still ran 3:27. He just needs to focus on the altitude this winter and spring and he’s good

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