Going pro doesn’t exactly mean what it used to. You can get sponsorships and be terrible as long as you have a large social media following. If you want to go pro based on performance it’ll take 7:40 in the 3k, which you’re not going to run.
Why you say that? 8:44 is about 9:24 for 2 miles and he's talking about 5 years down the road after running only 4 years so far. It's not impossible, especially if he's been undertrained.
"Only 4 years"? Lmao it doesn't take more than 4 years to be good at the 2 mile.
You could probably go "pro" as a mountain/ultra clown. Nothing wrong with that. But your TRACK times are d3.
What I know is Dan wasn't as proficient as he was at 1600; he finished 11th at state xc and didn't crack the top 30 at FLMW. He would agree that he wasn't all that dedicated until his senior year. He only made a serious effort to do off season running after his junior year and even then put in only about 600 miles that summer. He and Andrew McQuillan were interchangeable at the 1-2 spots and Q ran 9:22.
Everyone was surprised that he developed into what he became. He was a good example of someone who changed his focus and realized his potential.
A 4:11 based on moderate training shows rare talent. As he increased training, his performance level at the longer distances caught up with what he could do for the shorter ones.
The OP hasn’t given us much information, but he probably doesn’t have the 400m speed to be elite someday. I don’t recall anyone increasing their top-end significantly after HS.
He became a good but not great college runner, it was after college and under Gary that he made a huge jump to national class, then another to world class. You're talking now about 2010; 2013 when he ran his personal bests. 8-11 years after he left high school. Most guys would've moved on from running well before then based on his college times, but he stuck it out.
It wasn't rare talent, he worked to become what he was.
I don't know this kid either, but this linear projection stuff is nonsense. You can't always tell how someone will turn out. And it's been proven countless times.
Well, I think so. You have to go all out though. Can't be a poser. Here's what you need to do:
1) Scream, "Let's GOOOOOOO! AFTER you've done something remotely good. Don't yell it BEFORE you've done said good thing, because even though that's logical, it's not "bro."
2) Need to follow the Bro Code. If you don't know the Bro Code, you need to learn it.
3) Surround yourself with other bros. Can't be a solitary bro, and the more bros around you, the greater chance you will actually become a bro.
4) You need to call other bros "bro." That's kind of mid-level, but it's the default and should be used most often. Using "brah" is low level and should only be done once in a great while and only for comedic effect. "Broseph" is high-level and should be used sparingly and in an unforced way.
5) Master bro shake with half embrace. If you can't do this, you can't go bro.
6) The above are common knowledge, but this last one is not as well-known but just as important. If you're going mountain climbing, don't organize the bringing of sandwiches, but if one is offered to you while there, you accept.
Try to ignore some of these haters. Your times show real talent. Will they develop into pro caliber in a few years? That’s hard to say. It’s going to be a long game type of approach for you to get there. Getting the right coach (whether that is via collegiate running or a private coach) will be key as well. Hope to see you smash it down the line. Good luck!
I'm currently 18. Ive been running for 4 years and just recently ran 8:44 for 3000m. If I really grind the next 5 years, do I have a chance at going pro?
After being a slacker for 4 years, what’s changed for you that makes you think you’re capable of training like an elite? Have you ever ran doubles?