A big chunk of the drop in male life expectancy is related drug overdoses. The opiate epidemic is still going on despite some reforms in prescribing opiates for pain relief and actions against pill mills. Addiction treatment is a joke and few can even access addiction programs due to health insurance issues.
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Cheer up.
In the US in 1901, an 18-year-old could expect to live until age 63.
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Do something for the next generations.
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FloggingSully wrote:
The things that tend to kill young people have the biggest impact on life expectancy. The US leads the developed world in most of those categories. Canada doesn't have a longer life expectancy than the US because their healthcare system is better (though it is), they have a longer life expectancy because Canadians are much less likely to be shot, or get hit by cars, or OD.
This isn't quite right.
The quality of healthcare, and particularly for poorer segments of the population, is a significant contributor to the population life expectancy. To your point, infant mortality in the US is not great compared to western developed countries.
On the other hand, this isn't the reason for the recent drop in life expectancy.
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Who da fuq wants to live beyond 70 anyways?
No longer sub-20 then you might as well pull the plug.
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It took that article less than two paragraphs to blame it all on "covid deaths" i.e. people who died of heart attacks, cancer etc while infected by a common cold virus.
No, changing the rules on attributing cause of death isn't why men die younger. It's still the heart attacks, cancers, etc. And that's mostly from the decades of normalized obesity.
There's also the fact that today's old people were yesterday's partying boomers, wrecking their bodies with booze, drugs, STDs, smoking, etc. Things that catch up to you at that age.516 -
never mind the coffee, spit out the BS wrote:
It took that article less than two paragraphs to blame it all on "covid deaths" i.e. people who died of heart attacks, cancer etc while infected by a common cold virus.
No, changing the rules on attributing cause of death isn't why men die younger. It's still the heart attacks, cancers, etc. And that's mostly from the decades of normalized obesity.
There's also the fact that today's old people were yesterday's partying boomers, wrecking their bodies with booze, drugs, STDs, smoking, etc. Things that catch up to you at that age.
Yeah, people are going to chalk up the causes to whatever conforms to their politics and world view. Prior to COVID, you can look this up, there was already this chatter about trending "deaths of despair" which particularly impact blue collar middle aged men. Suffice it to say, men are not alright on average.
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men's lives wrote:
never mind the coffee, spit out the BS wrote:
It took that article less than two paragraphs to blame it all on "covid deaths" i.e. people who died of heart attacks, cancer etc while infected by a common cold virus.
No, changing the rules on attributing cause of death isn't why men die younger. It's still the heart attacks, cancers, etc. And that's mostly from the decades of normalized obesity.
There's also the fact that today's old people were yesterday's partying boomers, wrecking their bodies with booze, drugs, STDs, smoking, etc. Things that catch up to you at that age.
Yeah, people are going to chalk up the causes to whatever conforms to their politics and world view. Prior to COVID, you can look this up, there was already this chatter about trending "deaths of despair" which particularly impact blue collar middle aged men. Suffice it to say, men are not alright on average.
Here, again, are the categorized leading causes of death in the US over the past few years.
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The term life expectancy used in studies like this is shorthand for life expectancy at Birth. A better forecasting tool is life expectancy at age 65, which is life expectancy assuming you've survived the diseases of childhood, reckless behaviors of young adults and live to reach age 65. Life expectancy at 65 is currently about age 84 with one year less for men and one or two years more for women.
Life expectancy continues to increase slightly for the following variables: non-smoker, College graduate, caucasian, non-obese, above average economic status, and no major pre-existing conditions at age 65. Assuming you meet all these criteria, your life expectancy at age 65 is around age 92.
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Flower Boy wrote:
Stats for Canadian men (from 2021) show 79.2. Perhaps you should move to get those years back?
What? Canada wants to expand euthanasia to the mentally ill. How long before Canada gets around to euthanizing the elderly for consuming too many resources? The disabled for their poor quality of life?
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I've lived in both Canada and the U.S. and I would describe the doctors in Canada in one word, HORRIFIC.
That is, if you can even find a doctor willing to accept you.
Please, don't go spewing off the virtues of socialized healthcare if you haven't experienced it first-hand; what you read on social media is far from reality.88 -
fisky wrote:
The term life expectancy used in studies like this is shorthand for life expectancy at Birth. A better forecasting tool is life expectancy at age 65, which is life expectancy assuming you've survived the diseases of childhood, reckless behaviors of young adults and live to reach age 65. Life expectancy at 65 is currently about age 84 with one year less for men and one or two years more for women.
Life expectancy continues to increase slightly for the following variables: non-smoker, College graduate, caucasian, non-obese, above average economic status, and no major pre-existing conditions at age 65. Assuming you meet all these criteria, your life expectancy at age 65 is around age 92.
The CDC tables through 2021 for this are in the document linked below, specifically Table A. The cause of death attribution for changes in life expectancy is given in figures 3-6 (spoiler Covid is the biggest single factor).
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On the bright side, your life expectancy rises as you get more years under you. If you’re a 72 year old man your life expectancy is 85. If you’re 85 it’s 91, and if you’re 91 it’s 94.31
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The trend of declining birthrate for American White males first started appearing in 2013-14. I remember reading articles on it and began piecing together the causes.
Obama was in office at the time and as part of his "fundamentally change the United States of America" platform, he was allowing floods of illegal aliens (predominately male) and narcotics into the country.
This had two affects: 1. it undercut the wages and job opportunities of middle and lower-class American males and 2. provide excessively dangerous narcotics that would inevitably find its way into the disenfranchised hands of the aforementioned middle and lower-class American males.
More minority males + less White males (less in number and less in economically-providing) = fundamentally change USA. This was what the radical Obama wanted.
When the American public realizes the implications of left-wing progressivism (social justice, anti-colonialism, equity, etc) on the existing population there will be significant consequences.
Please understand that when you see people today justifying Hamas' barbaric brutality on the jewish people of Israel, understand that those people are just waiting to turn that logic on You.
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There no way I'm making it to 73.
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2 feet in the grave wrote:
Did any of you older men spit out your coffee this morning while reading this?
According to this, I have 13 more months.
What should I do with my remaining time?
Drain my IRA? Travel? Booze/drugs/women? Run my bucket list races? Or, just continue my mundane life and wait for the grim reaper to catch me? Any reasonable ideas are appreciated.Society as a whole cares less about the average man compared to the average woman in this modern era. Men still have an advantage at the very top percentiles of power and wealth, but fare much worse on average in pretty much every quality-of-life metric, which probably impacts their will to continue living in some part. At the grade school level, girls are similarly outperforming boys in performance and retention, but gender gaps in general in favor of women and girls just don’t seem that fashionable a concern to discuss compared to the other way round.
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A large portion of this life expectancy drop is from fentanyl overdose deaths in young people. When young people die, it cuts into the average much more than when an elderly person dies, close to the average life expectancy. The overall average, has nothing to do with you. Your health, risks and behaviors are your own and aren't affected by the average.
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Boston University has an ongoing study on life expectancy as well as a life expectancy calculator. You answer questions about your health, smoking status, exercise, education level, family environment and so on and it estimates your life expectancy.
Note: Life expectancy is the age at which exactly half of the population meeting your age, etc criteria will have died. Therefore, there is a substantial, but less than 50%, probability that you will live longer than the shown life expectancy. You can take the test in the link below. I did. It estimated my LE as age 97.
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Monkeys Skyping wrote:
Here, again, are the categorized leading causes of death in the US over the past few years.
You can make a chart based on whatever lies you want, it's still just lies.
Average "covid" death were co-existent with several of the other causes, and were not previously counted.
We're not going to keep arguing about this for years. You're wrong, period. I'm guessing your a boomer, in which case, I suggest trying to go out a better person than you were 50 yeras ago.17 -
So, the average life span for US males is 73. Unless you're Black, then it's 71. Yet the GOP wants to raise the Social Security age to 69. Yeah, right.
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