Hanson's turn down money

Keith and Kevin Hanson put in 300 grand a year into hansons distance project by themselves. Brooks matches it. Then Brooks also gives the runners bonuses for running certain times and finishing certain places at major events. If you think they won't be around soon...Guess again

I guess Deena Kastor (Drossin) had comparable standards back in 1997 then. Right???

He wouldn't have been given the ROADS (emmm, walter) Scholarship if he didn't meet the criteria. So stop your bitching.

"All this proves is that one of their athletes has lower standards of ethics than they do."

so wait, if he needed the money, what does that say about the hansons? are they fully funded or not?!??!

seriously, honeslty i don't know.

all i do know is once i turned down a handjob from my friend's ex, maybe i should start a thread about that.

There's nothing wrong with accepting a well-earned scholarship. Trent is as honest, and good natured a person as they come. Just because he had some success (olympic trials) it doens't necessarily eliminate him from being rewarded for his accomplishments through the years. He deserves what he's received, he's EARNED what he's been offered - And at the end of the day, that's what matters most.

You are diluded. Have you been drinking the Hanson's Kool Aid so long you believe that? The Team probably generates a profit due to their deal with Brooks.

Ask a Hanson's Athlete where the money goes . . .

That's a load of crap. Not everything is as it appears.

[quote]The Exit Strategy is Set wrote:

I think the clock is ticking on the Hanson's leaving the elite athlete development business. By early 2007, they will drop their program and cite "lack of response from USATF and major marathons" as the main reason. We will all forget they turned down as much as $25k per quarter/$100k per year (the plan for LDR Project funds from all sources) and cry that these guys could not pay their rent.

If the obligations (from NYRR) were so onerous, we would have details. Is Mary W asking that the whole Hanson's squad run some BS 5k in Central Park next December? I cannot imagine anyone cares.[/quot

Very interesting post.

1 USATF not the Hanson's see development as business

2. Where did the $25k number come from? I thought they turned down one fifth of $240k?

3. Hansons did not turn down NYRR--They turned down the involvemrnt of USATF. Read their website.

1)Hansons have more than enough money

2)They are doing a great job

mmmhhjob wrote:

1)Hansons have more than enough money

2)They are doing a great job

Agreed.

Can't people just be happy with what they are doing and quit complaining and criticizing every move of the brothers Hanson and their athletes?

These two aren't idiots that are stubling through life and struggling to make ends meet. They're accomplished athletes and coaches that have enough business smarts to build a small running store empire in southeast Michigan, in some of the country's most wealthiest areas, I might add.

Now, I've never met the Hansons, but I do respect them. All you people that just complain do nothing to provide a solution or further the sport that you supposedly love. Put your money or time where you mouth is.

I just went over to www.hansons-running.com and noticed that this topic has been viewed by over 1300 people in a little over 24 hours. If you think that this group and their actions are not being noticed by many, then you greatly underestimate their influence. I just sent a note and some direction incentives to Mr. Hanson. I have just found a new reason to pay attention to distance running in the USA.

what the hell is a "direction incentive"? is this like a TPC report? hahaha

The Exit Strategy is Set wrote:

Very interesting post.

1 USATF not the Hanson's see development as business

2. Where did the $25k number come from? I thought they turned down one fifth of $240k?

3. Hansons did not turn down NYRR--They turned down the involvemrnt of USATF. Read their website.

2. The money was not to be spread equally (which was one of the major problems) Mammoth got the vast majority of the money, then Boulder. Minn, Big Sur, and Hanson were to get the same amount of money, less than the other two. Hanson turned thier share down.

3. The 240 was from NYRR, but it was the first installment of the overall USATF package. NYRR decided how it was to be split up. There is supposed to be more money coming from other sources (marathons). Hanson turned down the possibility of that money as well.

I stand corrected.

clarity speaks wrote:

http://www.rrca.org/programs/programs.html#P1

no you're the one that's dumb.

Hanson's is not turning down Brooks money. I am a full-time coach...I accept money from my full-time job. I was asked to work another part-time job, I considered it for a while & found out it may conflict with my full-time job which I am loyal to. So, I turned down the job. This is very similar to what Hanson's did. They cannot work for too many people.

Also, my college running program is fully funded, but I am going to allow my athletes to have scholarships (like Briney). The funding and scholarship work together.

Trent was not a Level 1 athlete for almost a year leading up to the trials. He did not work in the stores, he did not live in one of the houses and was not recieving free health insurance. His job was tougher, he had rent and health insurance to pay that other athletes on the team did not. I think his Scholarship was well desereved. So ONCE again, back off!

You're right about one thing though. You honestly don't know. Instead of starting a new thread, maybe you should let one die.......

"so wait, if he needed the money, what does that say about the hansons? are they fully funded or not?!??!

seriously, honeslty i don't know."

The funny thing about equity in his post..

The same thing is happening within his group. More money, benefits, etc are given to athletes who perform better. Why does someone like Mike Morgan have to pay rent while others in the group do not? Because there is a pecking order. The better athletes are rewarded.

The same is true of these groups and how the money was allocated. Why would Mammoth get more? Why would Boulder get more? Come on people.

Hansons are being hipocritical and I cant believe folks arent seeing this?

T B wrote:

moneybags wrote:

they dont have enough resources otherwise their #2 or #3 guy briney wouldn't have had to apply for a Roads Scholarship.

All this proves is that one of their athletes has lower standards of ethics than they do.

I would never say that.

well it's not like you are clarifying the situation any.

Most people atre missing the point that a majority of the money from NYRR is going to the Mamouth project. This group has athletes that are paid the most in the sport from their other individual sponsors. They are getting a luxury ride while most are on individual full shoe contracts and are banking that as they recieve and live off of USATF and more to the point NYRR stipends. They are some of the most successful athletes in the sport yet act like a group of emerging development athletes. The Mamouth project is triple dipping: their large individual contracts, prizemoney, and usatf funding. At the same time other small groups like Flagstaff and Bif Sur are stuggling to get off the ground finacially.