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LetsRun.com co-founder Robert Johnson has vowed for years to make a video criticizing USATF for its excessive pay of Max Siegel and today's news has finally pushed him over the top. Here is the video: https://youtu.be/wy1MYPFpkIc

Correction on 11/10/2023 - We just realized the compensation for the USA Swimming CEO is from 2020, not 2021 like for the others. In 2021, the USA Swimming CEO made $1,037,208.

  • USATF is a racket

    Anonymous Poster

    2 years ago 11/09/2023 12:34pm EST
    re: Jonathan Gault

    So USATF retains a grifting sellout who locked us into a really paltry 25-year NIKE deal, stifling other brands and giving athletes crumb.. I noticed that USATF dues have risen to $55 for next year. I guess we're paying for his incompetent, corrupt leadership. All national championships will continue to be in sh*tty Eugene, all USATF conventions will continue to be in corrupt, stanky Orlando, there will be no legitimate or creative attempts to grow the sport, the USATF website will continue to be a sh*t show, there will be very little development of any athlete over 2:15 (men) or 2:35 (women) type marathoners, and we'll have terrible coverage of track on a national level.

    This is a garbage hire and it isn't about race or color. The rich get richer. He's a useless, greedy f*ck who is contributing to the demise of the sport and can't even put butts in seats.

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    samcallan

    Member since 12/12/2021.

    5,940 posts. Last post 1 day ago.
    2 years ago 11/09/2023 1:05pm EST
    re: Tall Tree

    Tall Tree wrote:

    EvilRunner wrote:

    this is why track and field in the usa in many ways are kept in the stone age. you could not find a more incompetent fool to run the show 🤦🏻

    This is why the Europeans laugh at US track and field. It is also why International Sports governing organizations are controlled in Europe by educated, accomplished, savvy individuals.

    Bush League governing body in USATF.

    I think you give European counterparts way too much credit. Despite all this the US still produces a lot of medals.

  • drama llama

    Anonymous Poster

    2 years ago 11/09/2023 1:19pm EST
    re: Jonathan Gault

    Max-Kickback Siegel, how is he not in prison yet?

    What happened to the 2021 grand jury investigation?

    Remember it's not just the multi-million annual salary that is like ten times what any other national sport ceo makes (compare swimming) but he hands out huge contracts to his own companies!

    https://i.imgur.com/MacCzwG.jpg

    https://imgur.com/a/mUvkDmd

    runnersworld.com
    Criminal Investigation Looks at the Financial Relationship Between USATF and Nike
    A grand jury has subpoenaed records and contracts dating back to 2012.
    Open link

    washingtonpost.com
    USA Track and Field CEO has alarmed some insiders with his spending and style
    Since taking over in 2012, Max Siegel has overseen soaring revenues with a polarizing management approach.
    Open link

    flotrack.org
    There Is Money In USA Track And Field, Just Not For The Athletes - FloTrack
    Athletes don't tend to get into track and field for the money, but an executive might. In the Washington Post's story last week on USA Track and Field CEO M
    Open link

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    wejo

    Member since 08/12/2009.

    11,089 posts. Last post 22 hours ago.
    2 years ago 11/09/2023 1:59pm EST
    re: copy editor

    A few things I haven't seen mentioned.

    1) They should release information on Max's salary going forward now. This is a non profit and there is no reason that this info can not be conveyed in advance because his compensation will be released via the tax forms. Max and everyone at USATF is working for the members.

    2) USATF should release the findings that the independent compensation committee found. Was Max's bonus in the past reasonable?

    3) Possible good news: It says Max has expanded the USATF budget to $40 million. The last year of Tax forms 2021, shows $33 million. So hopefully revenue is way up.

    Otherwise financially it looks like Max has done very little recently for the financial growth of USATF as revenue was down from 2016 vs 2021. Hopefully that was a Covid artifact but there was no growth in revenue pre-covid from 2016-2019.

    4) USATF should release the projected revenue for the Nike contract going forward. The main thing Max has done from an outside perspective is sign the Nike deal (which was not put out for bid). It put USATF on much better financial footing but a lot of questions remain. Should this have been put out for bid? Do we think he got the best of Nike? And is this contract adjusted for inflation? It would be nice to know this and I don't think it unreasonable for the members to know this. At the very least the Board should know it.

    With a home Olympics and inflation it is entirely possible someone would have paid even more for the USATF sponsorship. What will USATF be getting in 2040 from the deal?

  • Gihiuih

    Anonymous Poster

    2 years ago 11/09/2023 2:02pm EST
    re: Kobbs Hessler

    First of all get rid of the hideous logo it is butt ugly!

  • My Username

    Anonymous Poster

    2 years ago 11/09/2023 2:04pm EST
    re: Makes Paper

    Makes Paper wrote:

    If every person who complained about Max Siegel and his pay would get more involved with USATF, there wouldn't be a Max Siegel and his pay.

    This is not true at all. There are literally hundreds of people (mostly unpaid) that actually make usatf a functioning entity and Max isn't one of them.

    You could bring every single paying member to the convention and they would have zero impact on leadership changes.

    The only way to make changes would be to buy out all of the contracts at a huge premium and try to force retire them all. They are all in bed with each other and milking the membership dry. Max is the head of the snake and a terrible representative of USATF.

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    Iron Bars

    Member since 04/25/2021.

    1,317 posts. Last post 1 week ago.
    2 years ago 11/09/2023 2:10pm EST
    re: Jonathan Gault

    Cooking the books with a few winks and nods is exactly why USATF has a 3.8 million dollar albatross on its neck. Fools never learn.

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    Iron Bars

    Member since 04/25/2021.

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    2 years ago 11/09/2023 2:11pm EST
    re: samcallan

    samcallan wrote:

    Tall Tree wrote:

    This is why the Europeans laugh at US track and field. It is also why International Sports governing organizations are controlled in Europe by educated, accomplished, savvy individuals.

    Bush League governing body in USATF.

    I think you give European counterparts way too much credit. Despite all this the US still produces a lot of medals.

    USATF have little or no part to play in the outcomes.

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    AncientRunner

    Member since 03/01/2018.

    226 posts. Last post 2 weeks ago.
    2 years ago 11/09/2023 2:18pm EST
    re: wowzer

    wowzer wrote:

    The quotes by Will Leer are unbelievable:

    “As CEO, Max has reversed the financial woes of USATF and created a strong revenue base which has provided millions of dollars in financial support to athletes. As chair of the Athlete Advisory Committee, I am proud the organization was able to retain Max. We greatly look forward to continuing to work with Max and further the work he has been doing. We look forward to supporting him in delivering a new vision which continues to reward excellence and create a safe sport environment for all USA Track & Field athletes.”

    Thought this dude was on the athletes side but he gets a position of power and like everyone else gets captured by the entity he is on. Is the AAC chair always on the USATF Board? If so, it's a good way to ensure the athletes don't ask for too much, give their leader some perks and by human nature he'll be friendlier with USATF.

    I can name one thing Max has done for USATF - signed the long-term Nike deal. That changed the financial condition of USATF for the better.

    But are you confident he outsmarted Nike? The deal wasn't put out for bid. Are we confident that Max got Nike paying USATF more than anyone else would and that it was some act of genius?

    I'm not.

    Looks like Will Leer has gotten real good at putting on USATF knee pads. Lets send Will some lip gloss for the fine work he is doing.....he obviously needs it

  • Manipulated Will

    Anonymous Poster

    2 years ago 11/09/2023 2:36pm EST
    re: wowzer

    wowzer wrote:

    The quotes by Will Leer are unbelievable:

    “As CEO, Max has reversed the financial woes of USATF and created a strong revenue base which has provided millions of dollars in financial support to athletes. As chair of the Athlete Advisory Committee, I am proud the organization was able to retain Max. We greatly look forward to continuing to work with Max and further the work he has been doing. We look forward to supporting him in delivering a new vision which continues to reward excellence and create a safe sport environment for all USA Track & Field athletes.”

    Thought this dude was on the athletes side but he gets a position of power and like everyone else gets captured by the entity he is on. Is the AAC chair always on the USATF Board? If so, it's a good way to ensure the athletes don't ask for too much, give their leader some perks and by human nature he'll be friendlier with USATF.

    I can name one thing Max has done for USATF - signed the long-term Nike deal. That changed the financial condition of USATF for the better.

    But are you confident he outsmarted Nike? The deal wasn't put out for bid. Are we confident that Max got Nike paying USATF more than anyone else would and that it was some act of genius?

    I'm not.

    Now the letter sent to the LOC in Orlando makes sense. Will is drinking the Kool-Aid that Max is serving. Will believed what Max told him and ignorantly lashed out at the Orlando people. Luckily Jon Hughes put the correct spin on things.

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    CoelhoKNowsitall

    Member since 09/08/2023.

    293 posts. Last post 1 year ago.
    2 years ago 11/09/2023 2:41pm EST
    re: Jonathan Gault

    must be nice

  • zxcvzxcv

    Anonymous Poster

    2 years ago 11/09/2023 3:12pm EST
    re: Jonathan Gault

    The gall to re-up this most corrupt and incompetent and overpaid CEOs for five years just like that would be shocking if this weren't the same board to give him all those toys in the first place.

  • cofounder

    wejo

    Member since 08/12/2009.

    11,089 posts. Last post 22 hours ago.
    2 years ago 11/09/2023 3:38pm EST
    re: zxcvzxcv

    zxcvzxcv wrote:

    The gall to re-up this most corrupt and incompetent and overpaid CEOs for five years just like that would be shocking if this weren't the same board to give him all those toys in the first place.

    Dolf Berle, the CEO of Top Golf, is now on the Board and apparently they did some study on his salary. Thy need to release the report. At the very least my hope is going forward his salary is more in line with what should be expected for a company with 40 million in revenue. In the past it seems like he was grossly overpaid for no bidding the Nike deal, but maybe the report could prove me wrong.

  • Big Time

    Anonymous Poster

    2 years ago 11/09/2023 3:46pm EST
    re: Jonathan Gault

    This guy knows where the bodies are buried.

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    Paul Adam

    Member since 10/21/2023.

    24 posts. Last post 2 years ago.
    2 years ago 11/09/2023 3:50pm EST
    re: wejo

    wejo wrote:

    zxcvzxcv wrote:

    The gall to re-up this most corrupt and incompetent and overpaid CEOs for five years just like that would be shocking if this weren't the same board to give him all those toys in the first place.

    Dolf Berle, the CEO of Top Golf, is now on the Board and apparently they did some study on his salary. Thy need to release the report. At the very least my hope is going forward his salary is more in line with what should be expected for a company with 40 million in revenue. In the past it seems like he was grossly overpaid for no bidding the Nike deal, but maybe the report could prove me wrong.

    CEOs will not criticize other CEOs salary other than it might be too low. You are very mistaken if that Dolf Berle guy will do something about Max Siegel.

  • USATF Robbed Blind

    Anonymous Poster

    2 years ago 11/09/2023 4:20pm EST
    re: Paul Adam

    Wow, Max Siegel had absolutely nothing to do with the Nike Contract, he was an independent board member when the deal was signed not the CEO. This is a fact, ask him. Steve Miller the former Board of Directors Chairman for USATF stated this clearly in an article written by the Washington Post, that Max had absolutely nothing to do with the Nike Contract. When do we find out that there is a $2.5- $3.0 million dollar resigning bonus for this extended time, I'd bet on it.

  • cofounder

    wejo

    Member since 08/12/2009.

    11,089 posts. Last post 22 hours ago.
    2 years ago 11/09/2023 4:25pm EST
    re: USATF Robbed Blind

    USATF Robbed Blind wrote:

    Wow, Max Siegel had absolutely nothing to do with the Nike Contract, he was an independent board member when the deal was signed not the CEO. This is a fact, ask him. Steve Miller the former Board of Directors Chairman for USATF stated this clearly in an article written by the Washington Post, that Max had absolutely nothing to do with the Nike Contract. When do we find out that there is a $2.5- $3.0 million dollar resigning bonus for this extended time, I'd bet on it.

    That is factually not correct. Article below when deal was signed with this quote, "
    “This new deal is a game-changer for the sport and what USATF will be able to offer all of our constituents,” said USATF CEO Max Siegel

    letsrun.com
    USATF and Nike Sign Sponsorship Deal Through 2040
    USATF Communications
    by: USATF Communications April 16, 2014 INDIANAPOLIS – USA Track & Field (USATF) and NIKE, Inc. on Wednesday announced an expansion of their
    Open link

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    Coach J

    Member since 06/14/2019.

    67 posts. Last post 3 months ago.
    2 years ago 11/09/2023 4:45pm EST
    re: Jonathan Gault

    Nothing new here. I’ve been through AAU, then TAC and now USATF. Always been a clown show and always will be. Willie Sutton ( look it up) would be proud.

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    rojo

    Member since 07/09/2002.

    24,441 posts. Last post 1 day ago.
    2 years ago 11/09/2023 5:40pm EST
    re: Jonathan Gault

    I've vowed for years to make a video bashing Siegel and today's news has finally pushed me over the top. Assuming Jonathan or Weldon don't veto things in the final editing process, this video will debut at 7 pm ET tonight:

    YouTube.com
    USATF CEO Max Siegel is GROSSLY overpaid
    letsrundotcom
    LetsRun.com's Robert Johnson makes the assertion that Max Siegel - the head of USA Track & Field- is grossly overpaid. Revenues have been declining since 201...
    Watch on YouTube

    This post was edited by wejo 3 hours after it was posted.

  • Dolf

    Anonymous Poster

    2 years ago 11/09/2023 6:47pm EST
    re: wejo

    Dolf has been on the board for almost 4 years now.

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