I think it depends on how narrow you put your focus.
If their respective "sports" for Fisher is the 10K then he got 4th in the World, so that is pretty tough to beat. BUT Kelce probably does it, because his respective sport is being an NFL Tight End in which currently he is #1 in the world or atleast has been recently.
Bottom line, for their respective sports they are both SUPER high.
Who is better at their respective sport? It’s Kelce. He is a top 3 Tight End of all time. Fisher is a top 3 American 5k/10k runner of all time likely. So in the sense of impressiveness vis a vis their countryman, it’s the same. But you said at their sport, and Fishers sport features several dozen competitors past and present who are better at it. Kelces sports is mostly just Americans, a luxury Fisher doesn’t have.
So Fisher is top ten in his event? Kelce is top one in his.
If anyone is ignorant it is you and your comments on their relationship when you don't know either of them. I also assume they will eventually split - don't all celebrity couples? - but your take is certainly not based on any real knowledge.
OMG- I get it, large numbers are hard for intellectually challenged people to grasp.
Fisher's event is world wide, in fact every nation that competes in his sport is likely to have someone doing that event.
Kelce plays a game that isn't really played outside the US and Canada and the "pool" of competitors is very small compared to Fisher's.
If Kelce was gone, KC would replace him and keep winning. If Fisher was gone, Fisher would no longer win. Is that to far above your reading comprehension level to get?
And seriously- you don't know that Taylor Swift is far left and registering people to vote at her concerts? OMG
And that Kelce is a far right Trump supporter?
The NFL will take anyone from anywhere in the world and pay them millions if they can play. The talent pool isn't limited to the US and Canada.
For this discussion, I would say each event is a different category kind of like how receivers can run the ball so, they can play different positions and people can run different events.
Travis Kelce has been the top TE pretty much his whole career or at least in the top 5 for his respective position. Additionally, he has been a Top 5 receiving target (like a WR) for most of his career as well.
Grant Fisher got 5th at worlds one time, and since then he has done very little on the world stage in the 5k or 10k. Never runs world cross, runs like 2 races a year outside of the trials and worlds / Olympics.
Overall, Travis is better at his respective sport. However, one thing to note is Football players can play hurt but runners can't really. So it puts Grant in a worse position since if you aren't 100% in running it usually isn't worth racing.
Kelce won 2 championships in a non Olympic sport played only at amateur levels outside the US. He also made the pro bowl 8 times, with 4 first team all pro bowl awards. He received one all conference honor and one best tight end in the ncaa award (essentially what the award means).
To me an equivalent of the superbowl is usatf - not the olympics.
Fisher was a 12 time all American in college and also won NCAA championships. Fisher has on an event at USATF outdoor championships, but also has a 5th place at the olympics, 4th at worlds, 2nd at usatfs. In addition Fisher has American records.
To me Fisher is the best at his events of all Americans of all time. I thought it would be obvious Fisher was the better relative athlete when I started this post, but its not so obvious. I would say its a draw. Fisher definitely had the better college career, but they are about equal in their pro careers relative to the national scene. We can't really consider international rankings since football isn't played worldwide, but there is enough national in track competition to call this a draw.
OMG- I get it, large numbers are hard for intellectually challenged people to grasp.
Fisher's event is world wide, in fact every nation that competes in his sport is likely to have someone doing that event.
Kelce plays a game that isn't really played outside the US and Canada and the "pool" of competitors is very small compared to Fisher's.
If Kelce was gone, KC would replace him and keep winning. If Fisher was gone, Fisher would no longer win. Is that to far above your reading comprehension level to get?
And seriously- you don't know that Taylor Swift is far left and registering people to vote at her concerts? OMG
And that Kelce is a far right Trump supporter?
The NFL will take anyone from anywhere in the world and pay them millions if they can play. The talent pool isn't limited to the US and Canada.
Training for this skill set is limited to the US and Canada though. Nowhere else is there organized American football on a wide scale. No where else would the talents be developed. Its possible for a track athlete or someone to walk on a college football team, but unlikely without playing hs or at least rec american football.
Grant Fisher placed 5th in the Olympics and owns several North American records.
Travis Kelce twice was on a team of 50+ players, which defeated the other teams of 50+ players in an American only championship.
But that doesnt stop us from comparing an individual to others at his position. I would have said Kelce immediately, since he is arguably the best of all time at his position. He is utterly unstoppable in a sport of genetic freaks. Honestly i have never seen anything like it. not Gronk, not Gonzalez.
Grant is remarkable, esp as an american MD runner. He is not even close to the best right now and certainly not all time! He has had some fine finishes.
Gronk was both the best blocking TE in the NFL and the most clutch player during his tenure. He is taller, bigger, and had a faster 40y than Kelce. His fingers are an inch bigger than Kelce's and can wrap his hand around the football.
Kelce is more durable, isn't used in blocking often, and is his QB's primary target in every game. Gronk could block like a guard and in Belechicks offense, sometimes wasn't even targeted during games. If Gronk played for Andy Reid and was targeted the same way as Kelce, he would have the same status. ...he almost does anyways, despite missing parts or entire seasons.
Gronk will always be the most dominant and complete TE in NFL history. Kelce is the top of the Sharpe/Gonzalez/Gates style TEs in history.
I'm going to have to go with Travis. The question is quite point blank, and whether football is an American sport or not has little to do with the statement. Travis was a Top 3 contributor in that game, and has been for the Chiefs for a minute now. The pool may be hypothetically bigger in distance running, but the curve is higher for football, because of the smaller pool to pull from. Team sports and individual sports are so distinct, so it doesn't make sense to compare the two. If the question is impact, Travis Kelce has that in the bag.
And he would kick your butt at every sport except long slogs - and maybe even then. Oh yeah, and he's dating Taylor Swift - after a succession of hot women.
That was just stupid. Football is specific and Americans tend to think that football players are great at everything. WRONG.
Besides, the OP asked who is better AT THEIR RESPECTIVE SPORT, bucko.
Other sports don't matter and who they're dating doesn't matter, little fan boy.
The answer, as noted, is Fisher because he competes on the world stage, as an individual, and is very successful at it.
Kelce is part of a team of MANY players who win a game that no one bothers playing except North Americans.
Honestly, when the Chiefs either win the Super Bowl or lose their last game, that romance is done.
You couldn't pair up two more different people- a right wing, Midwesterner with those "values", if that's what you call them, and a liberal who registers young people to vote and tells them to vote AGAINST what her "boyfriend" believes in.
The multi-millionaires, T&F are 100m champs, 1500m champs and elite Marathoners.
5000m & 10000m at international competition are phony events. I like 5000m & 10000m as college events. We can't have college kids racing Marathon at conference championship. When your two best events are 5000m & 10000m, you will come on here and whine about N.F.L. TEs or M.L.B. utility multimillionaires, but ... . Race well at 1500m or Marathon.
Gronk was both the best blocking TE in the NFL and the most clutch player during his tenure. He is taller, bigger, and had a faster 40y than Kelce. His fingers are an inch bigger than Kelce's and can wrap his hand around the football.
Kelce is more durable, isn't used in blocking often, and is his QB's primary target in every game. Gronk could block like a guard and in Belechicks offense, sometimes wasn't even targeted during games. If Gronk played for Andy Reid and was targeted the same way as Kelce, he would have the same status. ...he almost does anyways, despite missing parts or entire seasons.
Gronk will always be the most dominant and complete TE in NFL history. Kelce is the top of the Sharpe/Gonzalez/Gates style TEs in history.
For this discussion, I would say each event is a different category kind of like how receivers can run the ball so, they can play different positions and people can run different events.
Travis Kelce has been the top TE pretty much his whole career or at least in the top 5 for his respective position. Additionally, he has been a Top 5 receiving target (like a WR) for most of his career as well.
Grant Fisher got 5th at worlds one time, and since then he has done very little on the world stage in the 5k or 10k. Never runs world cross, runs like 2 races a year outside of the trials and worlds / Olympics.
Overall, Travis is better at his respective sport. However, one thing to note is Football players can play hurt but runners can't really. So it puts Grant in a worse position since if you aren't 100% in running it usually isn't worth racing.
Not so.
Diamond League is the world stage. Actually, it is the best of the best in track and field that are chosen to compete in DL events.
Grant has several top three finishes in DL and has proven to be the only American distance runner to be able to compete with and beat the best of the best. He has competed in one Olympics early in his professional career (they only come around every four years) and placed well in two grueling events (5k and 10k). He placed well in the 2022 World championships in those same two grueling events. He was injured and couldn’t compete in this years World Championships but was able to pull off a storybook comeback by placing third at Zurich DL and third at the DL final in Eugene. Oh and he also bettered his American 3,000m outdoor record at this years DL final.
To say he doesn’t race is also a fallacy spread by ignorant posters such as yourself.
Grant Fisher placed 5th in the Olympics and owns several North American records.
Travis Kelce twice was on a team of 50+ players, which defeated the other teams of 50+ players in an American only championship.
And he would kick your butt at every sport except long slogs - and maybe even then. Oh yeah, and he's dating Taylor Swift - after a succession of hot women.
Weird response. Just FYI I am not Grant Fisher, in case that’s what you thought.
Also since you brought it up, I’d bet lots of money I could defeat Kelce anything 1k up, and dust him by 80+ mins in the marathon.
Grant Fisher placed 5th in the Olympics and owns several North American records.
Travis Kelce twice was on a team of 50+ players, which defeated the other teams of 50+ players in an American only championship.
Grant Fisher was the 5th best player at his position on the world’s largest stage
Travis Kelce was the best player at his position on the world’s largest stage.
You want to compare Kelce to other positions then you have to compare Fisher with sprinters and throwers.
Fisher was 5th at 10k. Kelce has been a top 3 tight end in the world basically every year and the could be considered the best of all-time at his pposition.the answer is the dude dating that psychopath T-Swift.
Kelce is nothing without Mahomes. Fisher doesn't need someone else to guide him during a race. I guarantee Kelce's numbers drop considerably if he has a different QB.
Kelce American records: Seasons with 1,000+ receiving yards by a tight end (7) Consecutive 1,000-yard receiving seasons by a tight end (7) Receiving yards in a season by a tight end (1,416) Seasons with 100+ receptions by a tight end (3) Games with 100+ yards receiving by a tight end (35)
Fisher North American records: 3000 m 7:25.47 5000 m 12:46.96 10000 m 26:33.84
Kelce operates in niche territory. Fisher has range from 3k-10k. Kelce will never go to the Olympics or a World Championship, only competes in American championships. Fisher 5th at Olympics and regularly wins American championships. The answer is clear.
Kelce is nothing without Mahomes. Fisher doesn't need someone else to guide him during a race. I guarantee Kelce's numbers drop considerably if he has a different QB.
What would Fisher run in a race where the next competitor was say 14 minutes - does he run an elite level time leading nearly all the race with every other athlete falling further and further back, even lapping everyone?
Its not fair to postulate on what ifs, only actual results so to speak.
Last time I checked, anyone worldwide is welcome to play in the NFL if they are skilled enough, regardless of their country. Also, last time I checked, Football is an Olympic sport, and there is now a >0% chance that Travis will get a gold medal before Grant.
Kelce American records: Seasons with 1,000+ receiving yards by a tight end (7) Consecutive 1,000-yard receiving seasons by a tight end (7) Receiving yards in a season by a tight end (1,416) Seasons with 100+ receptions by a tight end (3) Games with 100+ yards receiving by a tight end (35)
Fisher North American records: 3000 m 7:25.47 5000 m 12:46.96 10000 m 26:33.84
Kelce operates in niche territory. Fisher has range from 3k-10k. Kelce will never go to the Olympics or a World Championship, only competes in American championships. Fisher 5th at Olympics and regularly wins American championships. The answer is clear.
You are making the point why 5000m & 10000m were not original Olympic events, too redundant. I have demonstrated mathematically for years on here: 3000m to 1/2 Marathon is about the same change in pace by percentage as 400m to 800m.
Almost all elite 5000m & 10000m athletes fall in five categories:
1) Elite 800m to 5000m;
2) elite 1500m to 10000m;
3) elite 3000m to 1/2 Marathon;
4) elite 3000m to Marathon;
5) probably elite 5000m to 50K (no elite runner races 50K in their prime so unknown).
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