People wonder why the sport isn’t more popular. The sport places no importance in its history.
Look a the clown shoes Kiptum wore to set his “world record”. It’s no longer an athletic competition. It’s a shoe tech competition.
All you need is the right doped up jockey to ride the shoes and boom a new “world record”.
What sports places any importance on history? I have kids I teach in HS school who were debating the best NFL running back of all time the other day, and the two names they mentioned were: Adrian Peterson and Marshawn Lynch.
I said, "What about Walter Payton?" and they said, "who?"
No one cares about runners from 20+ years ago. Fans of the sport now were not watching back then.
I don't want to see people winning marathon majors in 2:07. We should be innovating in all aspects of performance so that the athletic limit continues to be pushed.
People wonder why the sport isn’t more popular. The sport places no importance in its history.
Look a the clown shoes Kiptum wore to set his “world record”. It’s no longer an athletic competition. It’s a shoe tech competition.
All you need is the right doped up jockey to ride the shoes and boom a new “world record”.
What sports places any importance on history? I have kids I teach in HS school who were debating the best NFL running back of all time the other day, and the two names they mentioned were: Adrian Peterson and Marshawn Lynch.
I said, "What about Walter Payton?" and they said, "who?"
No one cares about runners from 20+ years ago. Fans of the sport now were not watching back then.
I don't want to see people winning marathon majors in 2:07. We should be innovating in all aspects of performance so that the athletic limit continues to be pushed.
Every other sport reveres it's legends. This sport forgets them.
Shoe technology has advanced throughout the years since the beginning of the modern marathon in 1896, so where should we draw the line on history regarding which records are legit and which records aren't.
People used to run in shoes with leather soles. Imagine if they said rubber soles weren't legit, or if foam wasn't allowed. Records were broken regularly throughout all the years of changes. Are all those records not legit?
The point is that you do need to draw a line SOMEWHERE. Would you be okay with "runners" wearing roller skates? If not, then you're drawing a line somewhere, too.
Some of us believe the line needs to be drawn to exclude the current super shoes. In my opinion, it's made "running" no longer running. It's some form of pogo-ing. If you want to make a separate sport out of pogo-ing, okay, but don't call it running. It's no more running than if they wore roller skates.
Every other week a new world record. It’s really stupid. The technology and obvious doping has erased the record books. The juiced times are so outrageous that the sport no longer has a history.
It’s become quite boring.
History & competition are only of value if they helps sell stuff…..sad but true
Every other week a new world record. It’s really stupid. The technology and obvious doping has erased the record books. The juiced times are so outrageous that the sport no longer has a history.
It’s become quite boring.
YUP. Jim Ryun ran sub 4:00 in HS inn the 60's. Alan Webb in the 90's. Then 4 in 2022?
So if the shoes are aiding performance it must show in increasing stride-length and/or turnover. Where is the data that confirms this, and if so, how does the few inches of a sole of a shoe do this in a way shoes haven't done before?
Hey bro science. The shoes don't have to do either of those things to improve performance.
The shoes only have to allow someone to maintain thesamestride-length and turnover for longer and performance would be boosted a great deal.
So if the shoes are aiding performance it must show in increasing stride-length and/or turnover. Where is the data that confirms this, and if so, how does the few inches of a sole of a shoe do this in a way shoes haven't done before?
Hey bro science. The shoes don't have to do either of those things to improve performance.
The shoes only have to allow someone to maintain thesamestride-length and turnover for longer and performance would be boosted a great deal.
So why is your username "drugs"? Is that supposed to be irony?
Hey bro science. The shoes don't have to do either of those things to improve performance.
The shoes only have to allow someone to maintain thesamestride-length and turnover for longer and performance would be boosted a great deal.
So why is your username "drugs"? Is that supposed to be irony?
Armstrong refuses to acknowledge that the shoes make a difference. He uses bro science to accuse everyone of doping. I don't understand why in his head it's only due to doping.
The truth is doping has remained constant for 50+ years, it didn't go away. The only difference is the shoes. The shoes do make a difference.
Doping records fall due to a combination of doping and shoes. It's both.
So why is your username "drugs"? Is that supposed to be irony?
Armstrong refuses to acknowledge that the shoes make a difference. He uses bro science to accuse everyone of doping. I don't understand why in his head it's only due to doping.
The truth is doping has remained constant for 50+ years, it didn't go away. The only difference is the shoes. The shoes do make a difference.
Doping records fall due to a combination of doping and shoes. It's both.
So you have a basic understanding of Biomechanics, but not Bioenergetics?
Shoe technology has advanced throughout the years since the beginning of the modern marathon in 1896, so where should we draw the line on history regarding which records are legit and which records aren't.
People used to run in shoes with leather soles. Imagine if they said rubber soles weren't legit, or if foam wasn't allowed. Records were broken regularly throughout all the years of changes. Are all those records not legit?
The point is that you do need to draw a line SOMEWHERE. Would you be okay with "runners" wearing roller skates? If not, then you're drawing a line somewhere, too.
Some of us believe the line needs to be drawn to exclude the current super shoes. In my opinion, it's made "running" no longer running. It's some form of pogo-ing. If you want to make a separate sport out of pogo-ing, okay, but don't call it running. It's no more running than if they wore roller skates.
Roller skating is not running.
I think there should be some rules, which there are.
The point is that you do need to draw a line SOMEWHERE. Would you be okay with "runners" wearing roller skates? If not, then you're drawing a line somewhere, too.
Some of us believe the line needs to be drawn to exclude the current super shoes. In my opinion, it's made "running" no longer running. It's some form of pogo-ing. If you want to make a separate sport out of pogo-ing, okay, but don't call it running. It's no more running than if they wore roller skates.
Roller skating is not running.
I think there should be some rules, which there are.
Bouncing down the street on carbon fiber springs, while juiced to the gills, is running?
You make no point. Lance Armstrong never tested positive. Marion Jones never tested positive. Both admitted dopers.
Not to mention the contraptions on their feet that clearly boost performance.
If you’re so upset about it all don’t follow the sport. Simple.
Exactly. And I don't know why people get so upset about Marion Jones and Lance Armstrong either. They were both doing what they were told to do. They were both the very best in the world at what they did.
Coevett will say "doping apologist" but he believes in the dope, so he's a hypocrite. How do Coevett or Armstronglivs or Steve the addict or John Kellogg help the sport when they abuse the young athletes with their obsession with doping?
It's just another form of bullying. They act tough, but they are cowards. How do they help the sport?
If you’re so upset about it all don’t follow the sport. Simple.
Exactly. And I don't know why people get so upset about Marion Jones and Lance Armstrong either. They were both doing what they were told to do. They were both the very best in the world at what they did.
Coevett will say "doping apologist" but he believes in the dope, so he's a hypocrite. How do Coevett or Armstronglivs or Steve the addict or John Kellogg help the sport when they abuse the young athletes with their obsession with doping?
It's just another form of bullying. They act tough, but they are cowards. How do they help the sport?
Those poor picked on dopers and cheaters needed someone to stand up to the bullies for them. So chivalrous. I'm sure they all thank you.
Exactly. And I don't know why people get so upset about Marion Jones and Lance Armstrong either. They were both doing what they were told to do. They were both the very best in the world at what they did.
Coevett will say "doping apologist" but he believes in the dope, so he's a hypocrite. How do Coevett or Armstronglivs or Steve the addict or John Kellogg help the sport when they abuse the young athletes with their obsession with doping?
It's just another form of bullying. They act tough, but they are cowards. How do they help the sport?
Those poor picked on dopers and cheaters needed someone to stand up to the bullies for them. So chivalrous. I'm sure they all thank you.
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