Definitely high carb. Opposite to keto diet. Appears to be 70% carb intake.
One thing that is common in many societies that use grains is that they are often fermented or otherwise processed to reduce anti-nutrients and make more digestible. Weston Price talked about this in his studies of traditional diets. I think if you’re going to eat a high carb diet, avoid simple sugars and look into traditional recipes with soaked, fermented foods, etc.
A thread on Kipchoge where I am discussed more than the man himself. It doesn't get much better on CessRun than that! :)
That's because you're such an easy punching bag and laughingstock.
Clearly you like to be mocked and humiliated and shown to be flatly wrong in almost all of your nutrition beliefs. Some would call that being a masochist. Others a "troll". Still others would call you an incorrigibly in denial Narcissist.
135 miles a week and that's all he eats? I don't believe it. He would be anorexic. I am 35 and extremely skinny at 135 lbs (5'10) and I only do 30-40 miles a week and eat a lot more than in that video.
There’s an old nutcase around here called XY, an unusually proud possessor of allegedly visible abs, who will come around and tell everyone that that diet is pure cancer, inflammation, diabetes and all nutritional ills of humanity.
I know I know I know!
XY needs to reach out to Kipchoge and fix his crazy diet....BEFORE IT'S TOO LATE!!
I mean high carbs .. lots of grains... milk ...beans...veggies....LEAN[?!] meat....low fat????!!!
WTF? Sooooooo many anti-nutrients, so anti-paleo, sooooo crazy.
When Kipchoge is an old man like XY, he will probably be on death's doorstep. And XY will STILL be out doing sprints with the Young Bucks, high-fiving ladies as he finishes long runs on the track, impressing everyone as he shuffles along at his 20 minute per mile pace, And just being a total all around badass!
Poor Kipchoge. If he could have only not been brainwashed by the fake nutritional Experts of the world, and had instead, like XY, listened to all the nutrition Rebels and influencers on YouTube. What might have been?
He could have been a contendah! Instead of a bum.... which is what he is.
😢 😭
yeah, no... seems like you a trolling but ill bite, you are completely clueless when it comes to nutritional science, he eats a mostly whole foods plant based diet, which is PROVEN to beneficial for health and increasing athletic performance
Definitely high carb. Opposite to keto diet. Appears to be 70% carb intake.
One thing that is common in many societies that use grains is that they are often fermented or otherwise processed to reduce anti-nutrients and make more digestible. Weston Price talked about this in his studies of traditional diets. I think if you’re going to eat a high carb diet, avoid simple sugars and look into traditional recipes with soaked, fermented foods, etc.
“societies that use grains”: you mean practically the entire world because there is no modern society, ie a non-hunter-gatherer society, that doesn’t use grains; even the Inuit have modernized and started pecking on imported grains.
”are often fermented”: you just mean fermentation is a common practice because grain-eating people, ie practically the entire world, still consume a majority of their grains unfermented except parts of Africa where the traditional diet is closer to evenly split, but in any case, none of these societies think of their foods as “fermented good, unfermented bad”.
”anti-nutrients”: this is not a thing, at least not a thing anyone needs to think about while eating food (as opposed to non-food) and following common long known cooking practices.
A thread on Kipchoge where I am discussed more than the man himself. It doesn't get much better on CessRun than that! :)
That's because you're such an easy punching bag and laughingstock.
Clearly you like to be mocked and humiliated and shown to be flatly wrong in almost all of your nutrition beliefs. Some would call that being a masochist. Others a "troll". Still others would call you an incorrigibly in denial Narcissist.
I humbly accept the offer of free rent in your psychological space, as tiny,distorted and restricted as that clearly is.
One thing that is common in many societies that use grains is that they are often fermented or otherwise processed to reduce anti-nutrients and make more digestible. Weston Price talked about this in his studies of traditional diets. I think if you’re going to eat a high carb diet, avoid simple sugars and look into traditional recipes with soaked, fermented foods, etc.
“societies that use grains”: you mean practically the entire world because there is no modern society, ie a non-hunter-gatherer society, that doesn’t use grains; even the Inuit have modernized and started pecking on imported grains.
”are often fermented”: you just mean fermentation is a common practice because grain-eating people, ie practically the entire world, still consume a majority of their grains unfermented except parts of Africa where the traditional diet is closer to evenly split, but in any case, none of these societies think of their foods as “fermented good, unfermented bad”.
”anti-nutrients”: this is not a thing, at least not a thing anyone needs to think about while eating food (as opposed to non-food) and following common long known cooking practices.
India is another of many examples where fermented grains are used in traditional dishes. I’m not only referring to fermentation as that is just one of several ways grains are processed (as I mentioned in my last post). I am also not referring to more Westernized diets in traditional societies. I’m not saying we have to do everything traditional societies did 100 years ago, but that we can learn from some of the traditional practices as far as long-term health and “running health.”
I'm not really surprised by this. I think as long as your diet isn't deficient in any essential nutrients and doesn't cause gastrointestinal discomfort while running, it probably won't really affect performance at all.
Yeah, I've seen videos of his training camp where they just open a bag of sliced white bread and pass that around. Wolf down 2-3 slices with some tea that has a lot of sugar. I can't remember whether this was before a run or after. But it made me think they don't overthink it much.
Drop the disrespect. Kipchoge is the greatest marathoner ever. You're mistaken if you think you're among people who will let you get away with casually saying something as lazy and patronizing as "The guys obviously just does what he is told".
Poor impulse control and generalized aggression are early symptoms of dementia. Take care and may the gods assist those who will be assigned to care for you....
Yeah, I've seen videos of his training camp where they just open a bag of sliced white bread and pass that around. Wolf down 2-3 slices with some tea that has a lot of sugar. I can't remember whether this was before a run or after. But it made me think they don't overthink it much.
That'd be after their first run. Most Kenyans do their first run fasted. Only a very small percentage don't. Also, a very small percent do use whey protein, but it would be the more notable athletes with money.
“societies that use grains”: you mean practically the entire world because there is no modern society, ie a non-hunter-gatherer society, that doesn’t use grains; even the Inuit have modernized and started pecking on imported grains.
”are often fermented”: you just mean fermentation is a common practice because grain-eating people, ie practically the entire world, still consume a majority of their grains unfermented except parts of Africa where the traditional diet is closer to evenly split, but in any case, none of these societies think of their foods as “fermented good, unfermented bad”.
”anti-nutrients”: this is not a thing, at least not a thing anyone needs to think about while eating food (as opposed to non-food) and following common long known cooking practices.
India is another of many examples where fermented grains are used in traditional dishes. I’m not only referring to fermentation as that is just one of several ways grains are processed (as I mentioned in my last post). I am also not referring to more Westernized diets in traditional societies. I’m not saying we have to do everything traditional societies did 100 years ago, but that we can learn from some of the traditional practices as far as long-term health and “running health.”
Yes, fermented is common in India like in many other countries, but the majority of grain consumption in India is unfermented. Your post read to me as implying that eating unfermented grains is bad or should be lessened, but there’s no such concern.
India is another of many examples where fermented grains are used in traditional dishes. I’m not only referring to fermentation as that is just one of several ways grains are processed (as I mentioned in my last post). I am also not referring to more Westernized diets in traditional societies. I’m not saying we have to do everything traditional societies did 100 years ago, but that we can learn from some of the traditional practices as far as long-term health and “running health.”
Yes, fermented is common in India like in many other countries, but the majority of grain consumption in India is unfermented. Your post read to me as implying that eating unfermented grains is bad or should be lessened, but there’s no such concern.
Grains in India that aren’t fermented are often soaked for hours (which I mentioned in my initial post). Historically, breads around the world were almost always sourdough (fermented) prior to the more modern use of yeast. Grain corn was often prepared with water and lime (or ash). These procceses reduce the anti-nutrients and I believe are much healthier over the long term if you’re going to eat more grains.
Part of the reason why many people are having success with a keto diet, I believe, is they’ve had decades of eating junk, imbalaced meals and improperly-prepared grains (not to mention a high stress environment). I believe that a keto diet with a wide variety of vegetables can be a healthy transitional diet for many with a possible long-term goal of gradually adding back in some grains.
Definitely high carb. Opposite to keto diet. Appears to be 70% carb intake.
I can just picture a bunch of skinny wannabes with kidney stones now from eating too much kale 😂
Dude, kale has almost zero oxalates.
And, what paleo bigots seem unaware of is that most oxalates in urine are from natural waste products of the body, not from food. If you eat a ton of high oxalate food like spinach or chocolate, you will be fine. A healthy body knows how to get rid of it unless your kidneys are messed up, like from eating too much protein. Even then, just consume calcium rich foods, it will bind to oxalates in the colon and be excreted in feces, bypassing kidney filtration.
135 miles a week and that's all he eats? I don't believe it. He would be anorexic. I am 35 and extremely skinny at 135 lbs (5'10) and I only do 30-40 miles a week and eat a lot more than in that video.
He doen’t do much the rest of the day.
And they drink tea with a lot of sugar.
BTW, it’s no surprise to anyone with a basic knowledge of endurance physiology that he eats high-carb.
Yes, fermented is common in India like in many other countries, but the majority of grain consumption in India is unfermented. Your post read to me as implying that eating unfermented grains is bad or should be lessened,
...Part of the reason why many people are having success with a keto diet, I believe, is they’ve had decades of eating junk, imbalaced meals and improperly-prepared grains (not to mention a high stress environment). I believe that a keto diet with a wide variety of vegetables can be a healthy transitional diet for many with a possible long-term goal of gradually adding back in some grains.
If keto helps people reduce insulin issues and lose weight then that's great but i have my doubts for long term health.
Extant hunter gatherers are not in ketosis, Inuit are not in ketosis (except when starved) nor are obligate carnivores or even hibernating bears. Ironically it's the original ancient farmers rather than HG who were more likely to suffer famine and so probably had periods of starvation ketosis.
None of the blue zone people with high levels of centaurians ate keto, and consume about one tenth the amount of meat as the average American. The have significantly lower rates of cvd, dementia and metabolic disorders, and they eat a diet more like kipchoge: veg, whole grains, beans legumes, tubers etc, some alcohol.
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