How does he race so much? He’s been showing up and winning every 3 days for the last 2 weeks and is running a road mile across the Atlantic
I’m guessing he’s fresh having not run rounds at worlds and is trying to capitalise on his fitness relative to those who did. He hasn’t been able to race against the best for a month or so, so is trying to get the most out of his season now. seems pretty obvious to me
We get excited about sub 3:50 in the mile because it used to be a significant barrier, and it still is, but the mile doesn't get run enough these days to make these times commonplace. There have been 28 men this year run faster than 3:32.5 for 1500m. Conversions usually add between 17 and 17.5 seconds. Mills 1500 time of 3:30.95 a few weeks ago would indicate that he is in 3:48 shape. It's still a very strong performance and I`m sure he is happy to be able to call himself a sub 3:50 miler.
Only three Europeans have run faster in the last 20 years.
Four outdoors, six total:
I have counted 10 races of 1500m in his legs since May (2 races in June), thats 3 times more than most elite runners. And still they say he is still beginning the poor...
I have counted 10 races of 1500m in his legs since May (2 races in June), thats 3 times more than most elite runners. And still they say he is still beginning the poor...
George Mills has a lot of upside. He was one of the most talented juniors Britain has produced but then had two whole seasons wiped put through injury. He could certainly get to Wightman/Kerr levels in the next couple of years.
Why is no one talking about Mael Gouyette. The Iona runner has now run 3:35 in the 1500 and 3:53 in the mile this summer
Is he coming back this year? That's a crazy improvement from 3:40/3:58. He's never made an NCAA final and he's never won a MAAC title at 1500 or mile.
Looks like he dropped his PR to 3:35 over the summer and was runner-up at the French Championships behind Habz, so his mile is on par with his 1500 now. Also Iona has a history of not racing athletes in their main event at MAACs (Mael won the 5k outdoors and runner-up in the 3k from the slow heat indoors), which is interesting
Yeah I think that's the point mate - Centro is the Olympic champion and when he ran his sub 3.50 it was a big deal (and it was very impressive given the circumstances). I wouldn't even think of putting Mills in the same class and yet here he is with a comparable lifetime bests over the 1500 and the mile and it's really his first season competing in upper tier/DL level meets.
Also it's not about being worried about him - I'm not worried if he runs 3.55 or 3.45 for the mile - it's not about how the global level is at a new plateau because even a decade ago it seemed like a sub 3.50 put you right in the top tier of global milers and not sure I see that in Mills just yet (hint: in 2013 only 3 guys broke 3.50 and nobody broke 3.49.0. Mills would have been the third ranked miler by time that season behind only Silas Kiplagat and Asbel Kiprop).
Well, he’s the fastest miler in the world so far this outdoor season, behind no one…
A 3:49.6 mile is like a 3:32.6 1500: good, obviously, but not remarkable for a runner of Mills’s caliber (and he is ranked #12 in the world according to the World Athletics rankings system, and #17 by time at 3:30.95). If the mile was run by the top guys with any regularity at all, then 3:49 would really seem ho-hum.
The way Mills has been running lately, he is firmly in tier 2 among 1500 runners, which I would describe as championship finalist contenders but unlikely medalists, just a notch below guys like Kerr, Nuguse, Nordas, Kipsang and Katir.
Edit - I felt compelled to bring up one more point of contention: I don’t agree that it was a “big deal” when Centro ran 3:49.26 two years ago. The race got a fair bit of attention here because a) Centro always garners a lot of discussion here and b) it was billed in advance as an American record attempt and live-streamed as an event dubbed “The Centro Mile”. The pervading reaction to his result was lukewarm; it definitely showed he was fit, particularly considering the poor pacing, but it wasn’t going to strike fear in his competition and he came up well short of his goal.
Yeah and so to that point if we are agreeing he is a tier 2 guy, there is simply no way a "tier 2 guy" was running sub 3.50 a decade ago - hence an example of the marked evolution in the event. Or am I missing something?
With respect to Centro back in 21, it may not have been a big deal in the annuls of history (not even close to an AR), but it was a far more impressive run than he was given credit for. He was the reigning Olympic Champion and ran a lifetime PR - and he did it on a highschool track on a Friday night in front of 1200 people with some of the worst pacemaking I've ever seen (shout out to Bartlsmeyer who took it out way too hard in 54.0, then ran a 57.1 and stepped off the track in 2.20 through a km (dropping to 57.8 pace)). There were questions about his form and he ran the 5th fastest time by an American ever - ahead of some pretty damn good athletes. Hey I'm not a big Centro fan at all but I respect his ability and that performance was a good one and hence a big deal at the time. Just my opinion.
Youre being downvoted because insist on creating an irrelevant parallel between Girma (a WORLD RECORD HOLDER) and Mills (a pretty good 1500 guy, but who everyone else on the thread agrees is not at the VERY top level). And this is based on one race where Mills got beaten by him.
Whilst everyone else is having a discussion about Mills and his race (as the thread title is about him) you are crying to yourself about some ret*rded imaginary contest between the two.
I have enormous respect for Girma and he is a great athlete but this thread was about Mills. In fact I don't even think anyone is seriously disagreeing that Girma is better than Mills but you insist on having a meltdown anyway.
I struggle to understand why you cr@p your pants whenever someone makes a thread about or praises a good runner who happens to be white.
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