You don't Need to neutralize Jakob, he can't simply hold the pace of the 5k guys this year. Ethiopians, which have a very strong sense of group and union and are very team oriented will sacrifice one between Aregawi, Kejelcha and Gebrhiwet in order to keep a crazy pace and win the race. Ethiopians are the favourites, the outsider is Cheptegei.
Please livestream yourself watching the race, I'd pay to see your face when Jakob goes for the water cups and wins anyway.
You don't Need to neutralize Jakob, he can't simply hold the pace of the 5k guys this year. Ethiopians, which have a very strong sense of group and union and are very team oriented will sacrifice one between Aregawi, Kejelcha and Gebrhiwet in order to keep a crazy pace and win the race. Ethiopians are the favourites, the outsider is Cheptegei.
Jakob "can't simply hold the the pace of the 5k guys this year". Why can't he? Do you have the slightest indication that he can't? If you answer provide some empirical evidence.
It's called sport. Take a 12'48" runner who runs 1500m batteries + final two days before the 5k final and let him compete with a bunch of 12'35"-12'40" guys that only runs that event (some of them) while some others run 10k seven days before. Times, recovery and team work are everything in athletics.
You don't Need to neutralize Jakob, he can't simply hold the pace of the 5k guys this year. Ethiopians, which have a very strong sense of group and union and are very team oriented will sacrifice one between Aregawi, Kejelcha and Gebrhiwet in order to keep a crazy pace and win the race. Ethiopians are the favourites, the outsider is Cheptegei.
Please livestream yourself watching the race, I'd pay to see your face when Jakob goes for the water cups and wins anyway.
I'll be at the stadium to watch the Ethiopians smashing him with a fast race. He is not ready to defeat a field like that. Jakob is a good runner but he is not in the league of El Guerrouji or Bekele.
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Please livestream yourself watching the race, I'd pay to see your face when Jakob goes for the water cups and wins anyway.
I'll be at the stadium to watch the Ethiopians smashing him with a fast race. He is not ready to defeat a field like that. Jakob is a good runner but he is not in the league of El Guerrouji or Bekele.
Maybe not quite there but very close. Very close. Remember. 3:27.14, 7:24.00, 12:48
The 3000m time should at least be 7:21 which he ran in the last 3000m of the 2 mile run.
And nobody believes 12:48 is his potential right now. But even if we use the 12:48 time he is already the best combined1500m, 3000m and 5000 runner of all time. (Using World Athletics point system).
Have I missed something? It is 4 days between the 5k final (27.aug) and 1500m final (23.aug).and i am guessing a 10k is much more exhausting and harder to recover from than a 1500m
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Jakob "can't simply hold the the pace of the 5k guys this year". Why can't he? Do you have the slightest indication that he can't? If you answer provide some empirical evidence.
It's called sport. Take a 12'48" runner who runs 1500m batteries + final two days before the 5k final and let him compete with a bunch of 12'35"-12'40" guys that only runs that event (some of them) while some others run 10k seven days before. Times, recovery and team work are everything in athletics.
At least be serious. He was a 12:48 runner two years ago, and has only gotten faster since. And there are 4 days between the 1500m final and the 5000m final. That's plenty enough time to recover from a 1500m race.
I'll be at the stadium to watch the Ethiopians smashing him with a fast race. He is not ready to defeat a field like that. Jakob is a good runner but he is not in the league of El Guerrouji or Bekele.
This BEGS to be saved and brought up again in ten days.
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It's called sport. Take a 12'48" runner who runs 1500m batteries + final two days before the 5k final and let him compete with a bunch of 12'35"-12'40" guys that only runs that event (some of them) while some others run 10k seven days before. Times, recovery and team work are everything in athletics.
At least be serious. He was a 12:48 runner two years ago, and has only gotten faster since. And there are 4 days between the 1500m final and the 5000m final. That's plenty enough time to recover from a 1500m race.
Three days only. And there is the 5000 R1 just the day after the 1500m final.
If he never runs the 5000m in DL or other events he is still a 12'48" runner until he proves he is not. After the 1500m he lost in Eugene he only focused on training for 1500m leaving the 5k.
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I’ve been watching 5000m championship races for a few decades and can’t think of any examples of team tactics successful used or runners sacrificing themselves for teammates.
Can someone give examples or show why it may be different this time?
Please livestream yourself watching the race, I'd pay to see your face when Jakob goes for the water cups and wins anyway.
I'll be at the stadium to watch the Ethiopians smashing him with a fast race. He is not ready to defeat a field like that. Jakob is a good runner but he is not in the league of El Guerrouji or Bekele.
They didnt do it last year, which is where they should have.
I dont see it happening this year with Aregawi doubling back. Gebriwhet and Kejelcha are not going to front run, maybe Bekele but not without the group committted.
I dont see the Kenyans front running either with Kipkorir doubling.
Youll probably see a tepid move with 2k to go by Krop or someone, non committal, then the big move coming at 1200m to go by Kejelcha/Gebriwhet with Jakob and Katir just waiting till 500m to go
I’ve been watching 5000m championship races for a few decades and can’t think of any examples of team tactics successful used or runners sacrificing themselves for teammates.
Can someone give examples or show why it may be different this time?
I'll be at the stadium to watch the Ethiopians smashing him with a fast race. He is not ready to defeat a field like that. Jakob is a good runner but he is not in the league of El Guerrouji or Bekele.
They didnt do it last year, which is where they should have.
I dont see it happening this year with Aregawi doubling back. Gebriwhet and Kejelcha are not going to front run, maybe Bekele but not without the group committted.
I dont see the Kenyans front running either with Kipkorir doubling.
Youll probably see a tepid move with 2k to go by Krop or someone, non committal, then the big move coming at 1200m to go by Kejelcha/Gebriwhet with Jakob and Katir just waiting till 500m to go
nur ran 2:21 off of a 13:40 pace though, iirc. no way he is closing in 2:21 off a 12:50 pace, which might be pr pace for him lol.
Which is why we get slow championship 5k. It is a guessing game when they run 4k at 13:40 pace and then see which of a half dozen guys has the best 1k off that. JI you would expect to win most of them but the rest are close enough that positioning and having a good day can give any of them the win.
Of course roughly the same thing happens in fast races. Go out at 12:45 pace and some of these guys will realize they are only in 12:50 shape and struggle on that last lap.
I’ve been watching 5000m championship races for a few decades and can’t think of any examples of team tactics successful used or runners sacrificing themselves for teammates.
Can someone give examples or show why it may be different this time?
Doha 2019 Ethiopia
they didn't exactly sacrifice themselves, running the first parts of the race at around 13:00 pace, before slowing down to 13:10-13:15 pace before picking it up again to finish just under 13:00. Mind you, this was during a year that Barega had already run something like 12:43.
jakob hung on then, until 100 to go. and he is so much stronger now.
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