Good news for Jakob: Rumor from Uganda is Jacob Kiplimo will opt out of the 5000, only do 10,000 at Worlds

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2 years ago 07/28/2023 8:01am EDT

re: runner1991

runner1991 wrote:
of those three, only Aregawi qualified for the 10k team in their trials

This Is the key point in my opinion. There are so many good runners in the 5.000m so those focusing only on the 5k will make the difference over those doubling 1500-5000 or 10.000-5000. That's why i'm sure that Gebrhiwet, Kejelcha and Aregawi (if he is not running 10.000) are the major favourites to win in Budapest. Even a strong and consistent runner like Jakob can do nothing against fresher runners that are also able to run crazy fast times.

2 years ago 07/28/2023 9:31am EDT

re: JD Sullinger

JD Sullinger wrote:
LetsRun.com wrote:
The paper said he's "doubtful" for the 5000.

Link:www.pulsesports.co.ke/athletics/story/...

It's not a big surprise as he only did the 10,000 last year as well at Worlds (but won the 5 and 10 at CWGs) but this certainly helps Jakob. He's one of the guys you might expect to try to hammer it. No team tactics with Cheptegei either.
Why is this good news for Jakob? Ingebrigtsen has said in the past that he wants competition. In a 2021 interview, he said, "I want to race against the best, and I want to be pushed to my limits. If there's no competition, then there's no challenge."
He also just mentioned in Silesia that unfortunately, there are no challengers at the end of his races.

Didn’t he get outkicked at worlds last year? 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿

2 years ago 07/28/2023 11:52am EDT

re: 2nd best

2nd best wrote:
JD Sullinger wrote:
Why is this good news for Jakob? Ingebrigtsen has said in the past that he wants competition. In a 2021 interview, he said, "I want to race against the best, and I want to be pushed to my limits. If there's no competition, then there's no challenge."
He also just mentioned in Silesia that unfortunately, there are no challengers at the end of his races.
Didn’t he get outkicked at worlds last year? 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿

He should double back and take the race out in 5:00 at 2k.

2 years ago 07/28/2023 11:58am EDT

re: Tyrone ReXXXing

Tyrone ReXXXing wrote:
This is what Jakob should say when asked about Kiplimo skipping the 5000-
" if it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck, then it's a D..U...C...K duck. "
" there is only one king Jak/cob."

Jakob running vs. B-teamers at European Cross only to then do European indoors instead of World Cross (like Kiplimo did) is more ducking than Kiplimo choosing World Half (which will also be loaded) over the 5K.

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2 years ago 07/28/2023 12:01pm EDT

re: LetsRun.com

Jakob wasn't worried about J. Kiplimo. They've only raced twice, Jakob easily beat him in the U20 5k, and Kiplimo beat Jakob by a second in a fast 3k in 2020. Jakob has improved so much since then esp his strength and he can probably break the 5K world record. J Kiplimo has lost in big 5K such as the Olympics where he ran poorly and even this summer, while he has fast times this year, he again was beat in a recent Diamond League 5k. Kiplimo's best races will be in the 10K and possible up to the marathon. He doesn't have the speed to beat Jakob right now, no one does!

2 years ago 07/28/2023 12:03pm EDT

re: LetsRun.com

LetsRun.com wrote:
The paper said he's "doubtful" for the 5000.
Moses King wrote:
Only Joshua Cheptegei has been confirmed for the double.
A reliable source intimated to Pulse Uganda Sports that Kiplimo has prioritised the World Half Marathon Championships, where he holds the World Record.
"Kiplimo is preparing for the World Half Marathon Championships," the informant said, adding, "If he participates in the double (5,000m and 10,000m), he cannot compete in the Half Marathon."

Link:www.pulsesports.co.ke/athletics/story/...

It's not a big surprise as he only did the 10,000 last year as well at Worlds (but won the 5 and 10 at CWGs) but this certainly helps Jakob. He's one of the guys you might expect to try to hammer it. No team tactics with Cheptegei either.

Great, Jakob should be able to take additional water stops now and stay fully hydrated throughout the race.

2 years ago 07/28/2023 1:34pm EDT

re: trackfangirl

trackfangirl wrote:
Jakob wasn't worried about J. Kiplimo. They've only raced twice, Jakob easily beat him in the U20 5k, and Kiplimo beat Jakob by a second in a fast 3k in 2020. Jakob has improved so much since then esp his strength and he can probably break the 5K world record. J Kiplimo has lost in big 5K such as the Olympics where he ran poorly and even this summer, while he has fast times this year, he again was beat in a recent Diamond League 5k. Kiplimo's best races will be in the 10K and possible up to the marathon. He doesn't have the speed to beat Jakob right now, no one does!

Kiplimo beat Jakob in the 3000m in 2020 with 0.41 sec. (after Jakob was frontrunning the last 500m; Kiplimo attacked in the home stretch).

But otherwise I agree: Jakob is much stronger and faster today and even though Kiplimo is a great athlete Jakob has the upper hand on the track at least from the 5000m and down.

2 years ago 07/28/2023 1:50pm EDT

re: Tyrone ReXXXing

Tyrone ReXXXing wrote:
LetsRun.com wrote:
The paper said he's "doubtful" for the 5000.
This is what Jakob should say when asked about Kiplimo skipping the 5000-
" if it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck, then it's a D..U...C...K duck. "
" there is only one king Jak/cob."

It is not a duck any more than Ingebrigtsen skipping world cross was a duck. Kiplimo was unlikely to win the 5000, and Ingebrigtsen was unlikely to win world cross. They are different runners with different strengths.

2 years ago 07/28/2023 2:47pm EDT

re: SayWhattttt?

He most definitely is

2 years ago 07/28/2023 3:16pm EDT

re: LetsRun.com

Kiplimo is a marathoner that enjoys to use track 5.000m as a speed training for longer distances. Don't make much sense those comparisons with Ingebrigtsen. I wonder if he will move up to marathon or if he keeps going on with 10k and half-marathon.

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2 years ago 07/31/2023 4:40am EDT

re: THOUGHTSLEADER

THOUGHTSLEADER wrote:
Tyrone ReXXXing wrote:
This is what Jakob should say when asked about Kiplimo skipping the 5000-
" if it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck, then it's a D..U...C...K duck. "
" there is only one king Jak/cob."
Jakob running vs. B-teamers at European Cross only to then do European indoors instead of World Cross (like Kiplimo did) is more ducking than Kiplimo choosing World Half (which will also be loaded) over the 5K.

I disagree with you.

Jakob's decision to compete in the European Indoor Championships instead of the World Cross Country Championships is not a sign of weakness. It is a sign that he is prioritising his long-term goals. Part of those goals necessitates that he gets in uninterrupted training. Norway to Australia via Dubai and back would take more time from training and recovery than Norway to Italy did.

2 years ago 07/31/2023 6:45am EDT

re: JD Sullinger

I think it’s already been brought up here but Jakob has the very unique training environment where he could practice real racing against real world class runners(his brothers) during his thresholds. His body and brain are ready for race day so you don’t have to worry about him as much as let’s say the Americans who only focus on time trialing or being dragged to a fast time but can’t race, minus prime Centrowitz.

2 years ago 07/31/2023 8:21am EDT

re: THOUGHTSLEADER

THOUGHTSLEADER wrote:
Tyrone ReXXXing wrote:
This is what Jakob should say when asked about Kiplimo skipping the 5000-
" if it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck, then it's a D..U...C...K duck. "
" there is only one king Jak/cob."
Jakob running vs. B-teamers at European Cross only to then do European indoors instead of World Cross (like Kiplimo did) is more ducking than Kiplimo choosing World Half (which will also be loaded) over the 5K.

Dumb post. Not running a 5K at a meet you are already at is way different than not going halfway across the world to run a race a week before Euros. Zero reason Kiplimo can't run the 5,000, its over a month before World Half champs and he is literally already in Budapest. Its a duck no doubt, especially after the 5,000 he has already run this year.

2 years ago 07/31/2023 9:03am EDT

re: THOUGHTSLEADER

In that 5000m, he ran well but showed no promise of challenging for gold, whereas at World XC, he showed great promise for the 10000m and longer.

2 years ago 07/31/2023 9:51am EDT

re: cvxzzcvx

To people thinking I was ripping Jakob for running indoors/Euros…I really wasn’t. Just showing that he doesn’t always choose the most challenging route. He could’ve chosen to target XC in advance or even a more risky plan indoors. Alternatively runnjng in the loaded 3k/in the 1500 vs Nuguse/Katir, but due to his sickness he chose easy indoors spots before Euro indoors (always relatively easy). To say Kiplimo is ducking when he is racing a loaded 10K and loaded HM…He is picking his spots just as Jakob does. If he did the 5k he loses over a week of training really.

2 years ago 07/31/2023 12:41pm EDT

re: THOUGHTSLEADER

THOUGHTSLEADER wrote:
To people thinking I was ripping Jakob for running indoors/Euros…I really wasn’t. Just showing that he doesn’t always choose the most challenging route. He could’ve chosen to target XC in advance or even a more risky plan indoors. Alternatively runnjng in the loaded 3k/in the 1500 vs Nuguse/Katir, but due to his sickness he chose easy indoors spots before Euro indoors (always relatively easy). To say Kiplimo is ducking when he is racing a loaded 10K and loaded HM…He is picking his spots just as Jakob does. If he did the 5k he loses over a week of training really.

Come on man, this logic is ridiculous. If Jakob skipped the 5,000 after running the 1,500 to prepare for a race a month away he would be getting killed for ducking. Lets just call it like it is, running a 5K a week after a 10K has little to no impact on a Half Marathon on October 1st.

Skipping out on a Global Final you are one of the favorites in to get an extra week of training is lame, no matter how you slice it.

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