There is no such thing as a fast track. A “fast track” is code word for no drug testing.
Actually made me laugh lol.
This could be true because there was no drug testing when I was in high school and always ripped my best times on one track (6 PRs out of 8 total races where one non PR was saving legs for invite the next day and the other non PR was 3200m on the triple 10 mins after running an 800 PR).
I will never stop saying "would have RAN" because it sounds much better while still being perfectly intelligible.
The rules of grammar don't really matter, they always end up losing out in the long run to whatever sounds best, and then that becomes the new rule.
It sounds much better because you were raised by ignoramuses and you hang out with ignoramuses. As a result you feel much more comfortable with how ignoramuses talk.
Every verb has two options in the past tense. Such as ate/eaten, spoke/spoken, ran/run, talked/talked, stole/stolen, fell/fallen, walked/walked, drove/driven, etc.
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Every single person knows these rules. Nobody says, "If I had ate a bigger breakfast, I wouldn't be so hungry now." Nobody says that. Yet with the verb run, kids keep screwing it up.
Pretty much sums up why the sport is dying when a thread about the stupidity of not having a men's 1500m on the fastest track when there is a hugely marketable guy with the ability to finally erase a 25 year old doped WR, and most of the replies are from grammar nazis.
Not to mention that on a real language board, someone could have schooled the poor grammar nazi who is clearly unfamiliar with the many dialects of English.
It's a good guess that anytime someone responds to a use with "nobody says that', the responder is some poor kid who is quoting grammar books and is ignorant of the rich variety of dialects in English across the various English-speaking regions.
Funny how everyone is doped except your great white hope. He's more suspicious than anyone else. Just look at how he's never tired and/or winded after his races. Never have I seen anyone accuse him but when people of color break records and react the same way he does they must be doping. I know y'all are dying to have a white guy in the distance record books again but that's not gonna happen. I enjoy the grammar Nazis on here, it just shows the idiots of the boards that they're not as smart as they think.
There is no such thing as a fast track. A “fast track” is code word for no drug testing.
There are most definitely faster tracks, with better surfaces and situated so very little wind gets in. On the opposite end, for example, Eugene was always a pretty slow track, at least before the new stadium was built.
I am not a grammar Nazi. And you are, of course, right that some people do say "I have ran" and use other similar non-standard verb forms. "Who'd a thunk it?" is a good example of something that "people say." My grandpa said things like that. But he was just a regular person, not an arbiter of correct language usage.
My point was that if you listen to a newscast in Australia, England, South Africa, Canada, or any part of the US, "nobody" says "These presidential candidates have ran in many elections during the last decade." Nobody thinks that is correct. "Candidates have run in many elections."
Do you 100% agree with that?
p.s. And if you were teaching English (anywhere in the world) to people for whom it was a second language, what would you teach them is the past tense for the following (strong) verbs?
Eat - ate / have eaten
Speak -
Run -
Fall - fell / have fallen
Drink -
Swim - swam / have swum
Break -
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Every verb has two options in the past tense. Such as ate/eaten, spoke/spoken, ran/run, talked/talked, stole/stolen, fell/fallen, walked/walked, drove/driven, etc.
One is for situations that are done and over with. Such as, "When I was in college, I ran the 1500m a lot."
The second option, is for times when something started in the past but is still going on up this day. Such as, "I have run the 1500m three times so far this season (and I plan to keep running it)."
Finally, when something happens to you or is theoretical, you use the second of those two options. Such as, "The race was run as soon as the thunderstorm stopped." Or "I would run a marathon if you pay the entry fee." And of course, because it is theoretical, you always say "I would have run faster if the weather had been cooler."
Just remember, "ran" is a stand-alone past tense verb. Everything else is "run."
I have run many marathons and I plan to do Boston next year.
If you run a marathon, don't forget to hydrate.
I would have run faster if...
The event was run at 9pm.
I had never run the course before today, so I was happy to check it out during my warm-up.
They have never run faster than they did that day at districts.
They could have run faster if they had had Vaporflys instead of old-school flats.
Every single person knows these rules. Nobody says, "If I had ate a bigger breakfast, I wouldn't be so hungry now." Nobody says that. Yet with the verb run, kids keep screwing it up.
Thank you-this is the best grammar lesson I’ve seen on Let’sRan..!
I will never stop saying "would have RAN" because it sounds much better while still being perfectly intelligible.
The rules of grammar don't really matter, they always end up losing out in the long run to whatever sounds best, and then that becomes the new rule.
Yes
Sorry, Jed, but hillbillies have never been the arbiters of good English.
English changes according to common usage; "have ran" is not common usage and the adherence to it by this poster only shows he's unaware of what is the norm. It's called lack of education or just plain ignorance.
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