can we finally agree that COROS is trash compared to Garmin?

Coros pace 2 is maybe the best deal in gps watches. The comparable garming model is now 100 dollars more expensive.

The 200 dollar coros is the lightest gps watch on the market, has gps that lasts long enough for 100 miles on a single charge, built in altimeter, the best track running functionality period, and a far better watch strap.

I think the 200 dollar pace is equivalent to the garming 965 that is like 400 dollars more. It doesnt have music but who really cares about that?

when it comes to running specific smartwatches, garmin is the watch to have. however, the only features you really need is a timer/stopwatch. the issue with the high end garmin watches is that it'll give you information like pace but unfortunately, it's not in real time. it's like it'll accurately show you your pace at any given moment that you look at your watch. the benefit of GPS is mostly for when you're doing stuff like tempo runs in trails or something. other than that, all you really need is a timer, stop watch, and maybe bluetooth music. smartphone watches are soon gonna take over garmin watches; even for runners. by the time a 2nd or 3rd generation apple watch ultra comes out, even the epix/fenix garmin users are gonna start questioning if they even need running specific watches or if they can just use the apple watch ultra as a one size fits all watch.

Garmin is lucky they finally figured it out with the Fenix 6 and then 7 series because they were really hit or miss before.

They bought Firstbeat for the metrics and then things seem to improve.

The Race Predictor and vo2 stuff before the 6 series was almost a joke, now it finally actually works.

Coros tried to figure out their own alternative to the Firstbeat algorithms but it's all half-assed and doesn't work right.

I do wish the Garmins were as light as the Coros, the Fenix series is stupid heavy.

And Coros other purpose is to help keep Garmin prices down because they are getting carried away.

Now if Garmin would just buy Stryd they'd pretty much own the running market. The wind sensor on the Stryd is really neat and Garmin has nothing like it and they don't do "running power" correctly or at all on most models.

The other "secret" is if you want proper metrics you really need an HRM belt because optical even in 2023 is still terrible. And that's another problem, Garmin's HRM belts are terrible and wear out in just a year or two when alternatives can last a decade.

I bought the one Kipchoge wears. I have been quite disappointed, especially with the Coros training hub. I can plan workouts, but can only put the time, mileage, or another parameter. Not more than one? And I can't go back and tweak old workouts? I can't delete workouts I ended up not doing? It sucks.

Damn people feel strongly about their GPS watches

For the price I'm not sure you can beat a Coros

One lap is 400 meters. There I did it for you.

Some of us can run with a Garmin and not overthink things. You must be a weak-minded fool.

Regardless of what GPS watch we can all agree on two things.

Trolls who don't appear to understand how they work will swear that they make you run slower or something else they don't approve of based on a runner from the 1970s who didn't use one and was fast.

If a runner goes missing and habitually wore a GPS watch, people will suggest "tracking" their whereabouts even after it is patiently explained 10 times that they do not transmit a signal (no Bluetooth won't do it).

You are correct. Coros sucks!

always a coros Apple Watch

I bought my COROS pace 2 in September ‘22 after using various garmin watches for about nine years. I’ve found it to be more accurate with distance/pace, it gives real time pace updates unlike garmin, gets GPS faster, and is much lighter. For $200, it does everything I need it to. More and more of my teammates are switching over because the affordable garmin watches don’t get the job done, and the better ones are much more expensive and heavier.

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works for Coros.

These watches are complete JUNK, people.

Garmin prices fluctuate a lot on Amazon if you're not looking at the latest model, what with price matching and other mysterious reasons. I got the Forerunner 245 with music for $180 when it's listed on the Garmin site as over $300. I'm happy with it although I know I haven't even used all the features it comes with—it's not as intuitive as Polar. You do have to charge it fairly frequently but it charges really quickly. Like 20 mins.

As others have stated you can’t beat the $200 price point of the pace 2. But I don’t really see an acquisition time difference between Coros and Garmin

Coros is awful.. all the issues with them are also quite fixable.

Things that are super annoying... it takes 2 presses of the start button if you don't have heart rate and gps signal... even on the start line of say the Chicago marathon... yes starter can you please wait my coros hasn't loaded yet... and if you think well then just always press it 2 times well sometimes it loads before it registers your first press so a double press stops the watch... (Garmin just has 2 screens for activity types to avoid this problem and let you override the signal).

The lack of a glow button is annoying because the whole twist your wrist to get it to light up works at best 25% of the time.

they copyed the annoying beeping 30 times to go into powersave mode... why was that a good thing to copy. it was annoying on the garmin it's annoying on the coros. beep once maybe 2 times... or just go into powersave mode after the timeout.

now the apps:
yes Coros app has more data but I don't need that data... heart rate and splits are all 99% of all runners and coaches need to look at even heart rate isn't that useful especially without a strap. Who uses either Garmin or coros's app's anyways to do anything other than upload it to strava where it is a much better (but still kinda awful) app.

Basically coros has a bunch of features average fitness people or advanced or average runner will never use and they get the basics completely wrong: Start and stop and glow. the battery life was the big differentiator that made me try them and I regret it every single day. that I am not doing a multi day backpacking trip... which happens about 1-2 items a year.

Then warranty and customer service... Garmin is legendary when it comes to customer service partial cost repairs etc. coros warranty is not as good nor do you hear stories or a broken 3 year old watch being repaired for 30$

I am not willing to throw away 200$ watch to go buy a new one but I won't be sad when my coros dies. (My garmin lasted over 6 years no issues till it finally started to have issue)

Coros can easily fix my number 1 complaint with a software update... if they did that I would agree it is a closer battle than it actually is.

If you are making a stopwatch... make sure the stopwatch features are bullet proof before adding on any other features like power reading etc

Also the Coros 3 is coming out in a couple months. I've read good things about it. I may sell my 2 to get the 3. For the price, it's hard to beat and personally, I like the face on the watches...probably just me. Carry on.

I use forerunner 35 like cheptegi and bekele. Never had an issue recording my 16 minute 5ks accurately (on 25-30 miles a week... all of which have beautifully smooth GPS lines for my strata perusal, btw).