Hicks and Tuohy to Bowerman Track Club

This is categorically untrue. NIL deals prohibit an NCAA athlete signing contingent on them extending a relationship to a team or brand beyond their NCAA elegibility

Well, I guess we'll just have to watch deals roll through. Also watch Nike NILs like Valby, guaranteed she will go pro w/Nike, as it's already baked in.

I would refer you to NCAA Bylaw 12.1.2(b)) regarding professional obligations.
Although I do think these NIL deals will parlay into ongoing relationships beyond NCAA, however since it can’t be contractually obligated there are no guarantees. Case in point: Touhy x Adidas

Can someone clarify why Adidas couldn't just sign tuohy to a 5 year NIL Deal???

would seem a company could just sign an athlete to a multi-year NIL deal... And that would basically lock them up after they graduated...

12.1.2 Amateur Status. An individual loses amateur status and thus shall not be eligible for intercollegiate competition in a particular sport if the individual: (Revised: 4/25/02 effective 8/1/02, 4/23/03 effective 8/1/03, 4/29/10 effective 8/1/10)
(a) Uses athletics skill (directly or indirectly) for pay in any form in that sport;
(b) Accepts a promise of pay even if such pay is to be received following completion of intercollegiate athletics participation;
(c) Signs a contract or commitment of any kind to play professional athletics, regardless of its legal enforceability or any consideration received, except as permitted in Bylaw 12.2.5.1;
(d) Receives, directly or indirectly, a salary, reimbursement of expenses or any other form of financial assistance from a professional sports organization based on athletics skill or participation, except as permitted by NCAA rules and regulations;
(e) Competes on any professional athletics team per Bylaw 12.02.12, even if no pay or remuneration for expenses was received, except as permitted in Bylaw 12.2.3.2.1;
(f) After initial full-time collegiate enrollment, enters into a professional draft (see Bylaw 12.2.4); or
(g) Enters into an agreement with an agent.

IT’S BURRITOMANIA

You answered your own question.

An NIL deal by definition only occurs during NCAA eligibility, so a 5 year deal would put her beyond that point and therefore not be allowed. Clauses B and C are part that would prohibit a shoe company from contractually obligating an athlete beyond their NCAA career, since it would include promise of pay as a professional.

Touhy back to NC State.

No it wouldn't.

An NIL deal is a name image and likeness deal

It doesn't have to be or have any relation to professional pay and obviously it can't for NCAA athletes

Unless you can point to something specific I think you're just making stuff up based on your own hunches

Anyway I don't see why a company could not sign an athlete to a 20-year or 30 year or 50-year name image and likeness contract

Having such a long-term deal would obviously affect the athlete's ability to sign other deals...

But I don't see anything in the NCAA rules that puts a time limit on it.

There's obviously a lot of possibilities you can do with contracts but I don't see anything in the rules that specifies you can only sign an NIL for as many years as you has eligibility

The world of contracts is really complex but as far as I could tell it would be possible for Adidas to lock someone up if they wanted

You really think Adidas who sponsors some of the top athletes in the world, who has contract lawyers at the ready, is somehow too stupid to put a clause in a contact if they could?

Again, NCAA athletes are ONLY allowed to enter NIL contracts that span their NCAA eligibility, anything beyond that VOIDS their eligibility to compete. It says that in the clause you quoted yourself. That’s why some athletes are quitting college early to go pro if their sport draft process allows.

How did they lose? If they wanted to match the offer they would have. Most likely they saw the results last year and got out at the peak. If she continues improving great, so what, they still save their money. If she doesn't, they can say look, she got all the records with Adidas and she went downhill after signing with Nike. It's a win win.

What makes you think Adidas would be her top choice as a pro? They don't have a great team for her. She has Adidas Nil because she runs for an Adidas school.

I basically agree with you that Adidas may have bungled this. You can't sign 50 yrs, as you don't want 50 years of Drew Hunter, but 5 years, with option pretty good.

I noticed in your NCAA rule list that they can't have an agent, but clearly Tuohy has Flynn and Dunne has an agent, so the waters are murky.

Eventually some brand will get NIL right for a college athlete, the set schedule of championships and usatf summer, matches up naturally to a marketing calendar. So far though no brand has taken a serious shot at it. Even football and basketball is under utilized with deals mostly just about funneling cash to recruits, or selling jerseys.

Hicks has Flynn as well

Nike has sucked with women and lots of Bowerman women always injured not to mention Nike terrible history with Mary Cain. She should go with OAC for sure!

It's crazy that this rumor took off and so far my understanding is that it came from her follow list on instagram. But it perfectly possible all those people were already following Tuohy and vice versa.

Plenty of other great clubs she will fit into that aren't marred with all kinds of controversy like OAC or at this point still BTC. Hope she thinks hard before signing.

One thing is for certain. IF she is going to sign with Nike, it will be announced within the next couple days. There is no way that Nike would let her run in her only televised race this summer while wearing an NC State singlet with an Adidas logo on it. I would think if she runs USATF in her college singlet then she is not going to BTC. At least not this summer.

Any rumor would take off in her case: Adidas - where she already is, follow E Henes. Nike - deep ties to Nike w/ the 5 trips to nxn. OAC - probably best personality fit w/ Monson and ties to Hurta. Stay at NC State - last dance w/ Chmiel, Bush and she could easily race only 2-3 meets with a giant base build for '24. All good options.