$20,000 for an idea they got from a guy who used a toilet plunger on his relative?
That's crazy. Instead of spending 20k on the new device, shouldn't we save more lives by just sending $10k to the poor in Africa or something?
The problem with modern medicine is there never seems to be a cost-benefit analysis.
Why in God's name would this device cost $20k?
i don't understand, how would sending $10k to Africa help people who need CPR?
When it comes to Rojo's spelling, grammar and logic you're really beating a dead horse here ... except ... that maybe ... [bing!] we can send 10k to Africa and save the dead horses at the race tracks?
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First of all, it is three devices in one. The benefit of the plunger-like device is that it lift the chest back up after a compression, which greatly helps with blood flow. Then, there is mask that helps deliver oxygen and a back support that helps get the chest in the best position for blood circulation with the head. All three devices had to get FDA approval and probably had to go through a second round to get the combined device approved. So, like all drugs and medical devices, the company bringing it to market has to recoup its R&D and FDA approval costs while taking advantage of its patent window to make a profit.
As for a cost benefit analysis, this device may actually be one of the best bargains out there. It can be used over and over for a several years. If you use it on just 500 patients over the life of the machine, you just have to charge $40 per use to recover the cost of the machine. The average cost of an ambulance ride is about $1,300.00 by contrast. And maintaining a good blood and oxygen flow to the brain during a cardiac event can make a huge difference on whether the patient survives and whether there is any brain damage.
As for a cost benefit analysis, this device may actually be one of the best bargains out there. It can be used over and over for a several years. If you use it on just 500 patients over the life of the machine, you just have to charge $40 per use to recover the cost of the machine. The average cost of an ambulance ride is about $1,300.00 by contrast. And maintaining a good blood and oxygen flow to the brain during a cardiac event can make a huge difference on whether the patient survives and whether there is any brain damage.
500 patients? Where are you getting that figure? I'd assume you'd put one of these in an office buiding and it most likely would be NEVER used or used maybe once? I'd assume there'd be like 50 of these on every college campus like the AEDs.
As for a cost benefit analysis, this device may actually be one of the best bargains out there. It can be used over and over for a several years. If you use it on just 500 patients over the life of the machine, you just have to charge $40 per use to recover the cost of the machine. The average cost of an ambulance ride is about $1,300.00 by contrast. And maintaining a good blood and oxygen flow to the brain during a cardiac event can make a huge difference on whether the patient survives and whether there is any brain damage.
500 patients? Where are you getting that figure? I'd assume you'd put one of these in an office buiding and it most likely would be NEVER used or used maybe once? I'd assume there'd be like 50 of these on every college campus like the AEDs.
(1) 50 AEDs on college campus? Where’d you get that figure? Lemme guess, you made it up
(2) Here’s a real figure: AEDs save 1,700 American lives EVERY YEAR.
A study found that people are more likely to survive a cardiac arrest if a bystander uses a defibrillator while waiting for emergency medical services to arrive.
(3) Here’s another fact. There are 350,000 (!) CPR attempts in America outside of hospitals EVERY YEAR with a 5 to 10 percent survival rate (and 750,000 CPR attempts in American hospitals EVERY YEAR, with a 20 percent survival rate)
(4) Rojo, I certainly have enough facts to prove that you’re a moron, but if you’d like to continue talking, by all means, please do
$20,000 for an idea they got from a guy who used a toilet plunger on his relative?
That's crazy. Instead of spending 20k on the new device, shouldn't we save more lives by just sending $10k to the poor in Africa or something?
The problem with modern medicine is there never seems to be a cost-benefit analysis.
Why in God's name would this device cost $20k?
In the off chance you're looking for an answer rather than resorting to "whataboutism" by invoking an alternative that you aren't any more invested in . . .
It costs $20k because certifying and indemnifying medical equipment in the US is crazy expensive given our risk adverse and litigious social structure.
We don't send (much) money to Africa because we live under a system of brutal capitalism where moneyed people have much more value than "the poors". Medical equipment manufacturers cater to the wealthy because it is profitable to do so.
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