He also said it was easier to run fast in the 90s with a smile when asked about the new technology with shoes and etc prob because a lot off the runners used drugs back then
said it to NRK prior to the race
Yeah, he gets shoes and drugs. Best of both worlds.
Facts, most runners these days have no concept of what is actually “easy”. No 7 min mile “easy” run isn’t easy if you’re a 16+ min 5ker. Can’t wait for the downvotes by people who are much slower than me yet “train” harder. Keep blaming genetics, drugs, and whatever else to justify your inabilities!
You're right.
"Easy" is not a pace. It can be fast or slow.
But the main mistake we make is "recovery". This must be slow. Sometimes slower than people can fathom. Another mistake is not having enough recovery days. People don't understand that recovery is somewhat invisible and sometimes we need more than we think. In my opinion the majority of us would perform better with 2 hard days per week instead of 3.
For me, I perform best on 1 hard day a week, but I lack self-discipline.
I'm calling bulls%&t here. Jakob's been 'over training' since he was 8 years old. He was doing 85 miles/week as a 15 year old before breaking the 4:00 mile. His 2 older brothers admitted that every workout is an intense competition between the 3 of them. Hennrik - "We’re competitive; in every workout, every training, every competition, it’s always a winner and a loser – always.” Jakob himself recently said that the reason he is beating his competition is that he is "training 30% harder than the rest of them".
Let's be impartial and say there's a 50/50 change he's on EPO, teststosterone, L-carnitine injections, HGH etc
Then there's a 50/50 chance what he said was just misdirection. Sure, many runners overtrain, but you don't break world records by jogging around.
His last workout was incredibly hard, last two 800s in 1:49 while they measured his blood acid levels. Are we not using enough physiology in American training or not enough drugs? Maybe both.
I think he's probably talking to everyone, hobby joggers included. People think slaying workouts is going to produce results. I am still trying to get over this thinking.
Everyone hears these, and may translate them into their Thursday slow day:
Jakob trains much easier than, say, an Aden runner. That is, he doesn't usually hammer any workouts. The hardest they usually would go, other than hill sprints, in the past was half marathon pace for the vast majority of their many weekly workouts, with some 10x300 at 1500m pace workouts close to champs. His 6x800m workout was easily the hardest workout I've seen attributed to him.
I love how everyone just hangs on every word Jakob says. All you with your little lactate monitors thinking it’s the holy grail and you don’t have to train hard, just smart. The other Jacob (the one that beat Jakob) won the world title by just hard, grinding training. Nobody is asking Keely or Muir or Faith or Hull about their training - but I can assure you, it’s hard AF. Perhaps if Jakobs brothers trained a little harder they wouldn’t be so mediocre.
Jakob is the man right now, but it’s more than just the training that you are all going gaga for today. Trust me, the next fad will come around the corner soon. Jakob is playing you all for fools.
While there is no proof of illegal drugs, Ingebrigtsen is certainly a product of a laboratory. Every workout is scientifically designed, is blood levels are checked to determine his threshold, his calories and nutrients are counted. He is the best because he uses many resources to optimize his training.
*Note: I said the same thing about Lance Armstrong, and he proved to be a cheat. If science is that involved, it is quite easy to flip the switch to enhance performance.
Kinda like the European version of Rupp but with a lot more talent. Jakob was at Rupp's peak HS level when he was 15.
Let's be impartial and say there's a 50/50 change he's on EPO, teststosterone, L-carnitine injections, HGH etc
Then there's a 50/50 chance what he said was just misdirection. Sure, many runners overtrain, but you don't break world records by jogging around.
His last workout was incredibly hard, last two 800s in 1:49 while they measured his blood acid levels. Are we not using enough physiology in American training or not enough drugs? Maybe both.
Doping or not, wouldn't he have an incentive to underplay how hard he is training and encourage his competitors to train less?
It's a contradiction of what he said in a previous long interview. In that interview maybe several weeks ago he said he runs alot.Infact he said he does high mileage. I wouldn't give much credence to an interview just before the race because he could have been just trying to confuse his competition. Many elites do the same. If you want genuine facts follow the interview off season or when someone isn't about to compete.
Don't know if it has been noted but that 3:55 Miler and former Providence College star David McCarthy of Waterford, Ireland asking the questions. He had a great interview with Gjert as well.
I think he's talking along the line of what Gjert said in a Citius interview this week. Obviously nobody would suggest Jakob does low volume or "easy" training. He just doesn't do "prove it" workouts. Most runners reassure themselves by doing a workout that indicates their relative fitness for their event. These workouts tend to be closer to race efforts (or harder) on the body and break runners down. Jakob (via the Norwegian system) I think maintains extreme consistency and high volume without doing any (or very few) workouts that might predict race performance.
I was nothing special but the biggest jump in my performance was in college when I realized that I could race without doing some workout the week before that would tell me what I could run. Hitting a bunch of B-/B+ workouts for a year is obviously important but so is tempering your training near racing season so you don't leave some of your best races on the track. Jakob just shows up and knows his training works and thinks about racing rather than what his body is capable of.
I love how everyone just hangs on every word Jakob says. All you with your little lactate monitors thinking it’s the holy grail and you don’t have to train hard, just smart. The other Jacob (the one that beat Jakob) won the world title by just hard, grinding training. Nobody is asking Keely or Muir or Faith or Hull about their training - but I can assure you, it’s hard AF. Perhaps if Jakobs brothers trained a little harder they wouldn’t be so mediocre.
Jakob is the man right now, but it’s more than just the training that you are all going gaga for today. Trust me, the next fad will come around the corner soon. Jakob is playing you all for fools.
All the elites are training that way more or less. He's just the one being open about it. And besides, it's not new either and isn't a fad at all.
Jakob may train “harder” but it’s all very measured so that he doesn’t burn himself out. He has been training at a high level for a decade now and knows his training super well and can make more informed decisions. His criticism is for athletes who run their workouts way too fast or run too much too quickly
"Your pulse is north of a hundred ninety. Just a rough guess, but I'd say you were exceeding the agreed upon speed limit, Rube."
Facts, most runners these days have no concept of what is actually “easy”. No 7 min mile “easy” run isn’t easy if you’re a 16+ min 5ker. Can’t wait for the downvotes by people who are much slower than me yet “train” harder. Keep blaming genetics, drugs, and whatever else to justify your inabilities!
You're right.
"Easy" is not a pace. It can be fast or slow.
But the main mistake we make is "recovery". This must be slow. Sometimes slower than people can fathom. Another mistake is not having enough recovery days. People don't understand that recovery is somewhat invisible and sometimes we need more than we think. In my opinion the majority of us would perform better with 2 hard days per week instead of 3.
For me, I perform best on 1 hard day a week, but I lack self-discipline.
If I could only follow my own advice.....
Best move I ever made was to ditch my watch on easy days. I found it way easier to run to feel without any metrics on my wrist. "Easy" is definitely a feeling rather than a pace
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