It’s great that you know how all people think, especially regarding race.
Yeah, I know quite a bit just from surfing around here. Plenty of posts “proving” that whites are inherently slow, because of ethnic/genetic characteristics. Racism it is, but “acceptable” in the world today.
But I’ll say it again, my comment had nothing to do with the OP.
For sure there are racial issues all over the world, but there is PLENTY in o talk about re:Steiner’s sprinting, that has absolutely nothing hing to do with race.
YOU made it about race. Not the OP. Not me. And her race isn’t relevant to the performance that results from her form, and her form has nothing to do with her race.
You’re talking about possible motivations for the OP’s comment. What evidence is there within the 4 corners of his comment that race was a motivator?
You’re talking about possible motivations for the OP’s comment. What evidence is there within the 4 corners of his comment that race was a motivator?
Sprintgeezer, I’ll say it one more time. My comment had nothing at all to do with the OP. I accuse him of nothing. My observation was in response to someone else’s comment entirely. I am unsure how to make it more clear.
That said, I stand by my statement. Plenty of posters on this site (not the OP) and elsewhere suggest that whites are inherently slower because of they are white. I see runners like Abby Steiner as proof against this false thinking. Abby Steiner is fast because she is fast, that’s it.
He made a point. I responded substantively to that point, but you responded to only the conditionality, because that it what primarily interests you. The post to which you responded wasn’t about race—race was only an incidental condition.
In fact, I would say that the post was purposely trying to steer the convo away from race shlt—and you proceeded to yank it right down into the bs abyss.
The substantive answer that he/she was looking for is that, first of all, not all 10.9 collegians go on to run 10.8 or 10.7…and second of all, those who do have more complete races than Steiner, whose race has a serious weak point that shows no sign of improvement, and you cannot cleanly build on something that isn’t there.
Play to your strengths. Or just juice up and let ‘er rip. It’s a choice that many have faced when presented with the same problem. Lots of 100m people have the problem opposite hers—explosive start and powerful accel, only to run out of energy at 60-70m.
He made a point. I responded substantively to that point, but you responded to only the conditionality, because that it what primarily interests you. The post to which you responded wasn’t about race—race was only an incidental condition.
In fact, I would say that the post was purposely trying to steer the convo away from race shlt—and you proceeded to yank it right down into the bs abyss.
The substantive answer that he/she was looking for is that, first of all, not all 10.9 collegians go on to run 10.8 or 10.7…and second of all, those who do have more complete races than Steiner, whose race has a serious weak point that shows no sign of improvement, and you cannot cleanly build on something that isn’t there.
Play to your strengths. Or just juice up and let ‘er rip. It’s a choice that many have faced when presented with the same problem. Lots of 100m people have the problem opposite hers—explosive start and powerful accel, only to run out of energy at 60-70m.
I appreciate your substantive answer, I am a casual sprint fan. I’ll continue to bring up race from time to time, because it’s important and I like to make the point that explosive power and speed is not the province of any one race, any more than intelligence is the sole province of any one race. I cannot prove it, but I suspect the question has real-world consequences for young athletes who are quietly pushed one direction or the other based on race.
He made a point. I responded substantively to that point, but you responded to only the conditionality, because that it what primarily interests you. The post to which you responded wasn’t about race—race was only an incidental condition.
In fact, I would say that the post was purposely trying to steer the convo away from race shlt—and you proceeded to yank it right down into the bs abyss.
The substantive answer that he/she was looking for is that, first of all, not all 10.9 collegians go on to run 10.8 or 10.7…and second of all, those who do have more complete races than Steiner, whose race has a serious weak point that shows no sign of improvement, and you cannot cleanly build on something that isn’t there.
Play to your strengths. Or just juice up and let ‘er rip. It’s a choice that many have faced when presented with the same problem. Lots of 100m people have the problem opposite hers—explosive start and powerful accel, only to run out of energy at 60-70m.
I appreciate your substantive answer, I am a casual sprint fan. I’ll continue to bring up race from time to time, because it’s important and I like to make the point that explosive power and speed is not the province of any one race, any more than intelligence is the sole province of any one race. I cannot prove it, but I suspect the question has real-world consequences for young athletes who are quietly pushed one direction or the other based on race.
I get it. And I agree.
But what does that have to do with whether Steiner will actually achieve 10.7/10.8?
Do you think she is receiving inferior coaching and training based on her race?
I appreciate your substantive answer, I am a casual sprint fan. I’ll continue to bring up race from time to time, because it’s important and I like to make the point that explosive power and speed is not the province of any one race, any more than intelligence is the sole province of any one race. I cannot prove it, but I suspect the question has real-world consequences for young athletes who are quietly pushed one direction or the other based on race.
I get it. And I agree.
But what does that have to do with whether Steiner will actually achieve 10.7/10.8?
Do you think she is receiving inferior coaching and training based on her race?
I very much doubt it. That wasn’t the point of my comment. But I know little of her training.
There's a lot she can improve on and this was her 6th fastest time ever and maybe 4th best 200 if you factor in wind. Not the year she might've wanted but there are plenty of pros who have done worse first year pro.
Abby is going to have surgery on her left foot in September ( bone spurs )
I read somewhere, I can’t remember where, that she also had an Achilles issue. Someone commented that the Achilles issue caused the bone spur but that is not accurate because an Achilles issue can’t cause a bone spur.
If she does have a bone spur it’s better to go ahead and get it taken care of now instead of waiting for September. It would be better to pack her season in, get the issue resolved, rehab, and get back to training.
Steiner had an OK first year as a pro. It started better last summer when she was 5th at the WC and ran legs on the 4x1 & 4x4 championship teams. In the interim she had a decent indoor season and not a bad outdoor season. She’s far from being “washed” as another person commented. I would like to see her dabble more in the 400. She’s got good potential there.
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