Your post is sort of a duplicate of an earlier -J. Ingebrigtsen vs K. Warholm in the 800m…But that’s OK; we’re here also for the fun questions…
Here’s what I think: Fred Kerley will still be in the bend with more than a 100m to go, when Jakob I has done his 1,46 mid! And I think we could give Kerley 5 years with specific 800m training + a billion dollars, and he still wouldn’t break the 2 min barrier -not even close…
Fred Kerley is without any talent for the 800m be cause he’s too talented in the 100m (got too much fast fibers and therefore too little slow ones). So why could other good 400m runners (Harald Schmid, Alberto Juantorena) be so good in the 800m? Answer: Because they were so bad in the 100m! And let me spell it out: If Juantorenas pb in the 400m had been 1 sec slower his w-rec in the 800m would have been 1 sec FASTER!
You can’t glide on a reserve long into the next lap without a body for longer runs (well, maybe some short meters). I haven’t got the data on Kerley regarding 600 / 800m (guess there aren’t any), but I got something on Karsten Warholm; (Kerley and Warholm will be close in an all out 400m flat I think, but I also think the Norwegian will be 5,6,7 sec faster in the 800m due to slower 100m pb): Warholm pb in the 600m as a 13 old was 1,49,8. (Nearly 20 sec slower than a younger Jakob I) and 2;45,99 in the 800m. (44 sec slower than Jakob - and the TREND is important here). He him self thinks he showed some 800m talent in the 600m, and will not rule out that he can beat Jakob Ingebrigtsen in the 800m (now)…
Well, nobody told Warholm that his 600m wouldn’t place among the 320 best 13 year old Norwegian GIRLS, nor what happens to people when they try to glide. For instance: Why didn’t Bolt try to glide from his 19,19 ability to new w-rec in the 400m? (Being a former 400m runner and all..) -You can’t glide.
Jakob I was confronted with Warholms 800m dreams after the olympics -he laughed, said rather cool and arrogant;(something like this): “I’ll beat him in everything above 400m. -He’s a spinter. He can’t even hold the whole 400m distance!”
I agree with Jakob. But he him self can do the same misjudgment regarding his own ability in the 10000m, half and full marathon -brilliant 5000m doesn’t predict brilliant marathon. But he haven’t run any bad long runs yet (apart from hilly xc junior worlds), so we simply don’t know…
And I could of course be wrong in everything -running and people aren’t mathematics…
Fred gets out easy in 22, saunters through in 46, limps through a huge positive split 36 third 200m (15/21), walking into the 600m mark in a world record time, then jogs it out in 38 for a 1:50, three seconds behind Jakob.
Folks did you all see Jeremy Wariner attempt to move up to the 800m? Link below. Think he did 1:53. Looked good but he tried again and I don't think he broke 1:50. The 400 and 800 are wildly different events. Kerley is clearly a 100/200/400, type of 400 runner.
Watch more pro races here: https://bit.ly/2QBIFOVFormer Olympian, Baylor sprinter and 400m star Jeremy Wariner test his legs running his first career 800m ba...
The 400/800 types are rarer in mens track, and kerley certainly isn't one of them. They are a tad more common in womens track because women are running for a bit longer time. Hold speed for 50 sec takes a tad more aerobic ability than holding speed for 44 sec.
Again 400 hurdles is closer to an 800m than flat 400m for similar reasoning.
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You are not the first to ask: elite 100m to 400m man versus elite 1500m to 5000m man ...
This has been studied for 100 years so you can stop. Six-hundred yards, the (100 to 400)m man over 98%. Six-hundred meters, if elite 400m guy v. elite 800m guy, elite 800m wins 98%.
Fred gets out easy in 22, saunters through in 46, limps through a huge positive split 36 third 200m (15/21), walking into the 600m mark in a world record time, then jogs it out in 38 for a 1:50, three seconds behind Jakob.
More like Kerley jogs some 67 seconds (let's gets serious, barely walking for a 44 man) and holds on for dear life with 2km to go sub 2 hours in Berlin next year.
Probably the closer distance where they match is 500 or 600 meters. At that point, Kerley is likely tying up and falling back, and Ing might have just enough to catch him. It might actually be a fun race to watch.
this is the interesting question; at what distance does it cross from one being the favorite to the other. i think the above is correct.
Your post is sort of a duplicate of an earlier -J. Ingebrigtsen vs K. Warholm in the 800m…But that’s OK; we’re here also for the fun questions…
Here’s what I think: Fred Kerley will still be in the bend with more than a 100m to go, when Jakob I has done his 1,46 mid! And I think we could give Kerley 5 years with specific 800m training + a billion dollars, and he still wouldn’t break the 2 min barrier -not even close…
Fred Kerley is without any talent for the 800m be cause he’s too talented in the 100m (got too much fast fibers and therefore too little slow ones). So why could other good 400m runners (Harald Schmid, Alberto Juantorena) be so good in the 800m? Answer: Because they were so bad in the 100m! And let me spell it out: If Juantorenas pb in the 400m had been 1 sec slower his w-rec in the 800m would have been 1 sec FASTER!
You can’t glide on a reserve long into the next lap without a body for longer runs (well, maybe some short meters). I haven’t got the data on Kerley regarding 600 / 800m (guess there aren’t any), but I got something on Karsten Warholm; (Kerley and Warholm will be close in an all out 400m flat I think, but I also think the Norwegian will be 5,6,7 sec faster in the 800m due to slower 100m pb): Warholm pb in the 600m as a 13 old was 1,49,8. (Nearly 20 sec slower than a younger Jakob I) and 2;45,99 in the 800m. (44 sec slower than Jakob - and the TREND is important here). He him self thinks he showed some 800m talent in the 600m, and will not rule out that he can beat Jakob Ingebrigtsen in the 800m (now)…
Well, nobody told Warholm that his 600m wouldn’t place among the 320 best 13 year old Norwegian GIRLS, nor what happens to people when they try to glide. For instance: Why didn’t Bolt try to glide from his 19,19 ability to new w-rec in the 400m? (Being a former 400m runner and all..) -You can’t glide.
Jakob I was confronted with Warholms 800m dreams after the olympics -he laughed, said rather cool and arrogant;(something like this): “I’ll beat him in everything above 400m. -He’s a spinter. He can’t even hold the whole 400m distance!”
I agree with Jakob. But he him self can do the same misjudgment regarding his own ability in the 10000m, half and full marathon -brilliant 5000m doesn’t predict brilliant marathon. But he haven’t run any bad long runs yet (apart from hilly xc junior worlds), so we simply don’t know…
And I could of course be wrong in everything -running and people aren’t mathematics…
While I mostly agree with this post I think you are being a bit hyperbolic. If you don't think Kerley can run sub 2 with 5 years of event specific training and 1 billion dollar sweetener then I am concerned for your mental well-being. The dude was a world class 400m runner before he dropped down. I would bet on him breaking 2 tomorrow and would bet the farm on him breaking 2 with 3-4 months of specific training. Hell, I would probably put money down on low 150s with a year of specific training.
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More like "cus" you're trying to earn Yakob some points thereby giving your own ego little boosts. This is Letsrun.com message board so its very obvious.
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