None of this is what "jumping the shark" means. You're saying they're irrelevant, which may be true. But "jumping the shark" means doing some ridiculous stunt to try to get publicity and stay relevant. Like if they decided to set the world record for fastest 10k while juggling or something. But sliding into irrelevance without a fight is in no way "jumping the shark."
Jumping the Shark is the point at which tv series is in decline, it doesn't need to have a stunt attached. Little House on the Prairie jumped the shark after the older sister, Mary, went blind towards the end of one season, the next season was bad and everything afterwards only became progressively worse.
“The phrase was coined in 1985 by Jon Hein in response to a 1977 episode from the fifth season of the American sitcom Happy Days, in which Fonzie (Henry Winkler) jumps over a shark while on water-skis.”
TME has not done this sort of thing where they abandon their mission/content to do gimmicks. Though it’d be funny if we saw Drew trying to run a 3:25 downhill mile going down a mountain or whatever.
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I think it's good to do some work on the side. Running doesn't take 8 hours per day, and even if it did, some normal people work full time and run big mileage in addition to work. Two hours of running is a lot, and then two hours of recovery and supplemental training is a lot. So it's not really realistic to say running takes up more than a few hours a day.
People are probably seeing that they might only have a handful of years left to make some money with running and then they'll have to make money from something else the next 35 years of their life.
I know a fairly new pro (his first year) and he's thinking of looking for some kind of part time work in his field (he has a masters degree). He says there's just too much free time.
Running twice a day plus the gym doesn't take 8 hours.
None of this is what "jumping the shark" means. You're saying they're irrelevant, which may be true. But "jumping the shark" means doing some ridiculous stunt to try to get publicity and stay relevant. Like if they decided to set the world record for fastest 10k while juggling or something. But sliding into irrelevance without a fight is in no way "jumping the shark."
Jumping the Shark is the point at which tv series is in decline, it doesn't need to have a stunt attached. Little House on the Prairie jumped the shark after the older sister, Mary, went blind towards the end of one season, the next season was bad and everything afterwards only became progressively worse.
Well, actually Mary went blind in the Little House books (and presumably in real life) after catching scarlet fever as a teenager. And jumping the shark does mean doing something over the top to gain attention.
Drew Hunter is cool because he is among the few pros who posts ALL their training on Strava.
So we can actually argue about his training and running and not the usual stuff.
I have said for years Drew Hunter is insanely talented, the times he has run (3:34/13:17) with how easy his training is wild. For many years he has only ran 60-70 mpw, did a ton of 5:00 min pace cruise intervals, strides, and spent 2+ months each year injured. To turn that training into his performance indicates a ton of natural talent. Looking through his training it would be pretty typical for a 14-14:30 college guy.
Now his problem is he can't just do more because he always is getting hurt. HOWEVER, last offseason he started to run 80 mpw. He hasn't been injured in a year. And now that he has left tinman hopefully he will place less emphasis on cruise intervals and do the speed/intensity you need to actually be competitive in the 1500/5k. Nothing in his training gets close to some of the hard workouts we heard from Oregon Project or currently hear from Bowerman/On. He needs to do the intensity and raw speed work to make that jump to actually contend in championship races.
So I really think he could make a breakthrough here. He won't ever be world class but I think he could contend for a US Championship. Needs to stay healthy.
Also he always posts how tired he is with his new born, he needs to figure that out.
I think it's good to do some work on the side. Running doesn't take 8 hours per day, and even if it did, some normal people work full time and run big mileage in addition to work. Two hours of running is a lot, and then two hours of recovery and supplemental training is a lot. So it's not really realistic to say running takes up more than a few hours a day.
People are probably seeing that they might only have a handful of years left to make some money with running and then they'll have to make money from something else the next 35 years of their life.
I know a fairly new pro (his first year) and he's thinking of looking for some kind of part time work in his field (he has a masters degree). He says there's just too much free time.
Running twice a day plus the gym doesn't take 8 hours.
Jake Riley got his MS in ME while training to make the Olympic team, and he was able to fit that around surgery rehab and then marathon volume. You have the time to prepare yourself for the next phase if you have the head for it and want to manage it decently.
all elite groups eventually die , it’s inevitable. Age wins and life comes. This is why running clubs last longer than elite teams. Look at B.A.A., Atlanta track club, GRC. These teams have been around for years cos of recycled new runners
Wow, these guys are sure living rent free in your head. Are you ok? Even team photos and logos are triggering you. Your little screed here certainly tells us more about you than Tinman: your emotional and petty opinions about a running team are simply bizarre.
Who tf cares about a bunch of dudes that wanna continue running on a decent level post-collegiately. Other college athletes with their talent quit or change sports or get jobs and run their local 10ks after a night out with the boys. Tincan Subelite wanna do their own streetwear and pretend to be pros, so let them. If one or two make it to some championship, that is already a success but making teams or covering their expenses based on their performances is just a fantasy
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OK, so clearly you have kept yourself apprised of their race results and likely their weekly training.
From a debate perspective, you left a gaping hole, you clearly chose to leave out all data regarding their performances. I am familiar with *most* their performances in those races, and they were pretty ugly. The steeple times would have barely qualified for NCAA regionals top 48. On the top end of Tinman's squad, the best steeple performance would barely have a shot to contend to make it out of regionals.
Tori-Can she qualify for NCAAs this year as a "pro"? I had never heard of her until this board brought her up in relation to TME.
Will you please post with the data on those races you alluded to so everyone can get a proper perspective on where they stand now in comparison to prior years?
Let's allow everyone to make an evaluation off of objective data. To be fair most people here don't waste their time looking up every single race, and also to be fair, I did see the results on most of those races, but definitely not every single one.
I have Instagram though...if there was a major result, I am sure I would have seen updates on the IG.
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